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jlissem

New Jersey
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Posted - 08/11/2012 :  07:48:23 AM  Show Profile  Visit jlissem's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Inquiry made today to the Va. Notary Div.

"Can you please advise if the claim of a drivers license is sufficient to meet the requirements of section (b) an antecedent in-person identity proofing process in accordance with the specifications of the Federal Bridge Certification Authority,
The link to the company NotaryNow is below.

http://notarynow.signnow.com/pricing/

We in NJ had problems with this company in 2010 claiming webcam notatizations were legal in NJ. After our AG barred them, they tried same thing in the Northern Mariana Islands until stopped by their AG.
They are located in California and evidently
have found a Va. Notary or Notaries to do these
notarizations.
I do not see how a scanned drivers license meets your requirements."
James H. Lissemore,Pres
Flexo-Notaries Inc
Flexo-Notaries.com


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jlissem

New Jersey
139 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2012 :  5:32:18 PM  Show Profile  Visit jlissem's Homepage  Reply with Quote
No. I;m afraid they are out on the street. After NJ they tried the Northern Marianas.
http://www.saipantribune.com/newsstory.aspx?cat=1&newsID=110897
Now they have moved on to Va.
Wonder how Va. law
Virginia S-270 chapter 566 Approved 4/4/12

." In the case of an electronic notarization, "satisfactory evidence of identity" may be based on*****and audio conference technology, in accordance with the standards for electronic*****and audio communications set out in subdivisions B 1, B 2, and B 3 of § 19.2-3.1, that permits the notary to communicate with and identify the principal at the time of the notarial act, provided that such identification is confirmed by (a) personal knowledge, (b) an antecedent in-person identity proofing process in accordance with the specifications of the Federal Bridge Certification Authority, or (c) a valid digital certificate accessed by biometric data or by use of an interoperable Personal Identity Verification card that is designed, issued, and managed in accordance with the specifications published by the National Institute of Standards and Technology in Federal Information Processing Standards Publication 201-1, "Personal Identity Verification (PIV) of Federal Employees and Contractors," and supplements thereto or revisions thereof, including the specifications published by the Federal Chief Information Officers Council in "Personal Identity Verification Interoperability for Non-Federal Issuers

Especially requirement Bmuch less A or C
Why don't you have someone get a document notarized through them for $14.95 of course you could join their affiliate program and get paid $10
http://notarynow.signnow.com/affiliate-program/
Of course you can trust Chris as he is a WEST POINT graduate and a person of honor and integrity and does not lie to Notaries

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jbelmont

California
3106 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2012 :  1:59:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit jbelmont's Homepage  Reply with Quote
An interesting point... wasn't there a company in Orange County, CA doing these illegal notarizations in NJ, CA, and a few other states. I think the Sec of State put them all in Jail, but maybe they can do these notarizations for VA residents now from their jail cell.

I read that the quality of life in jails has improved now that the cartels have more influence there.

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jlissem

New Jersey
139 Posts

Posted - 08/10/2012 :  09:07:36 AM  Show Profile  Visit jlissem's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Jeremy
Why don't you ask NotaryNow/SignNow how they are meeting the Virginia ID requirements which are
Virginia S-270 chapter 566 Approved 4/4/12

." In the case of an electronic notarization, "satisfactory evidence of identity" may be based on*****and audio conference technology, in accordance with the standards for electronic*****and audio communications set out in subdivisions B 1, B 2, and B 3 of § 19.2-3.1, that permits the notary to communicate with and identify the principal at the time of the notarial act, provided that such identification is confirmed by (a) personal knowledge, (b) an antecedent in-person identity proofing process in accordance with the specifications of the Federal Bridge Certification Authority, or (c) a valid digital certificate accessed by biometric data or by use of an interoperable Personal Identity Verification card that is designed, issued, and managed in accordance with the specifications published by the National Institute of Standards and Technology in Federal Information Processing Standards Publication 201-1, "Personal Identity Verification (PIV) of Federal Employees and Contractors," and supplements thereto or revisions thereof, including the specifications published by the Federal Chief Information Officers Council in "Personal Identity Verification Interoperability for Non-Federal Issuers



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LaurieW

Georgia
0 Posts

Posted - 07/13/2012 :  7:13:59 PM  Show Profile  Visit LaurieW's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think this is a legal nightmare waiting to happen. This is something that is going to have to be watched very closely. The margin for fraud is huge. Not sure I would want to do this.

Laurie C. Watkins
www.notaryforhenry.com

Laurie C. Watkins
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edelske

New York
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Posted - 07/11/2012 :  4:23:49 PM  Show Profile  Visit edelske's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I believe a similar expedient precipitated the fall of Rome.


Kenneth A Edelstein
Mobile Notary, Apostille / Legalization Processing & Fingerprinting
http://www.kenneth-a-edelstein.com
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Lee-AR

Arkansas
678 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2012 :  01:31:23 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This act is not intended for general notary work or even loan signings. However, the actual act is so wordy with so many references to other law(s), that it is nearly incomprehensible and that fact subjects it to much 'spinning' by start-up companies trying to capitalize on the confusion.

I think that somewhere down the road a big mess is waiting that will make the robo-signers look good. Time will tell.

If you don't value your time and experience, nobody else will.
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jbelmont

California
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Posted - 07/10/2012 :  5:27:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit jbelmont's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Effective July 1, 2012, the Commonwealth of Virginia will be the first state to authorize a
principal signer to be in a remote location and have a document notarized electronically. Remote electronic notarization incorporates strict federal standards for determining the identity of the signer and requires the notary to keep a record of the vid&o conference for each notarial act, which is not required in paper notarizations. Accordingly, protections against fraud with this method are much stronger than that afforded by the current paper process. It is important to remember that the Commonwealth of Virginia already use vid&o conferencing in courts of law, the standards for which this law expressly crossreferences.

Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

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