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01/16/2017  6:10:09 PM by: JoseLopez Jump to Last Post

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First American Title This company is the most difficult to work with and unfortunately they are one of the biggest. Their system is always going down. They said we would get text messages and stop those calls asking us to go 80 miles for $75.00 or $35 if it's a loan mod and it isn't running and Cricket Wireless isn't on the list? They put so many restrictions on the notary and then when you call either at the table or for a question yourself..they NEVER call you back. They just can't get it together. 
Cricket is the knock off of AT&T. Or at least run using their network just like Virgin Mobile & Boost Mobile with Sprint. Page plus cellular with Verizon or MetroPCS with T-Mobile. So if you have a knock off carrier brand that does not show up you should be able to pick the brand name. If they are using email to SMS that's a different story. Jose Lopez  JoseLopez
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01/12/2017  2:58:24 PM by: 35992 Jump to Last Post

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RSH Notary Has anyone worked for RSH Notary in Arizona? I just completed 2 jobs for them last week and am hoping they pay promptly. 
Please post when you get paid [:)] Just curious.  PlsSign
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Has anyone worked for RSH Notary in Arizona? I just completed 2 jobs for them last week and am hoping they pay promptly.
Ive been waiting on 2 jobs I did for them in Oct and still havent been paid. Can someone please give me the info to report them. We dont work for free and this is unexceptable. The guy I was dealing with was very rude and combative. His name is Rusty. He as of now will not answer or return my phone calls. Has BSH Notary & RSH Notary. Looks like he runs two buinesses and does work on the side I found out. Thank you for any help possible forum folks. Mike Meat  n/a
That last time I had an assignment was October 2015, they paid within 30 days. SMM  35992
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01/12/2017  2:42:09 PM by: 35992 Jump to Last Post

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Mortgage Connect Mortgage Connect has 22 pages for you to download and fill out and they are saying that if you can't scan them back to us we don't want them. You can't fax them back? Is every body out their into scanning documents back to the companies? I live in a rural area and I just don't feel a need to scan and send that many documents just to get work from them. No other companies I work for are demanding that? Am I wrong, This is a new scanner/ printer. My 2 tray printer just prints Closing Documents, it doesn't scan them. Audrey Jane Spaulding 
Seems to me that some of the bigger TCs are moving to faxing and no longer want scans of loan docs, so--given the recent loss of volume, now is not the time to be buying new equipment just so you might get some work. Besides which, Mortgage Connect is a lowball outfit.
If you don't value your time and experience, nobody else will.
  Lee-AR
I like MC, you can send them fax backs. be firm on your fee and they will come around when they need you. I'm picking though and I enjoy the VIP clients. SMM  35992
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01/12/2017  2:39:31 PM by: 35992 Jump to Last Post

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Republic Title Has anyone worked for Republic Title? Not to be confused with Old Republic Title.  
I did 1 construction refinance in 2016, they were good and paid with 1 week.
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Has anyone worked for Republic Title? Not to be confused with Old Republic Title.
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01/12/2017  2:37:02 PM by: 35992 Jump to Last Post

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JP Morgan Has anyone done signings for this company? Or do they just create loans, but have some other company do the Title & notary dispatching work?  
I completed 1 signing from them. process was fine and paid within 30 days.
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Has anyone done signings for this company? Or do they just create loans, but have some other company do the Title & notary dispatching work?
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01/12/2017  2:33:53 PM by: 35992 Jump to Last Post

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All Wrapped Up Notary Services, Inc. Has anyone gotten wrapped up with All Wrapped Up Notary Services?  
Just received my first job with them this evening. Seemed good, but then the package came in and it's over 200 pages. I requested an additional "large package" fee (not much, 15$) and got a not so friendly email back. She says they pay twice a month, I'll keep you posted!   esnotary
Process ok, but packages come in way to large and cumbersome and fee is to low. Payment received in 90 days.
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BBS Notary Has anyone worked for BBS Notary before?  
Performed std refi with edocs and no faxbacks in June 2015. Vendor ordered through Notary Cafe and paid within 30 days. Smooth process. LJ-CPA  LJCPA
Completed 2 assignments for them in 2016, process went well and they payment was receiewd in 60 days.
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01/12/2017  2:25:44 PM by: 35992 Jump to Last Post

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Lendscape Title and Escrow Has anyone worked for Lendscape Title & Escrow before? I heard they were very good at manicuring and grading.  
I would not work for Lendscape title & escrow. I have not received payment for a application signing I did back in September 2015 or the actual signing in October 2015. The check has been in the mail since 11/9/2015. I was told they would reconcile their account get back with me. We are midway through January and still no payment. Work at your own risk Lendscape Title & Escrow 1001 State Street Ste 1400 Erie, PA 16502   Phyllis John
I accepted 2 assignments in 2016, during the last quarter of the year. They sent loan docs on time and paid within 60 days, but you do need to send invoices and send reminders or call. I would do business again.
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Has anyone worked for Lendscape Title & Escrow before? I heard they were very good at manicuring and grading.
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01/12/2017  2:22:22 PM by: 35992 Jump to Last Post

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Sign Here, LLC I performed a signing for them on January 18, 2016. I have contacted them three times regarding payment. Each time I called, an answering service told me they could not forward me to anyone. They assured me they could leave a message for someone to call me about the amount due. I also sent emails to the Managing Partner, Tracy Andersen, twice and have heard nothing back on the emails or my phone messages. Will not do work for such an unprofessional company who do not show the courtesy to respond to anything. Obviously do not recommend them at all. 
They have been great to me, I completed a multitude of signing for them. pay within 30days.
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I performed a signing for them on January 18, 2016. I have contacted them three times regarding payment. Each time I called, an answering service told me they could not forward me to anyone. They assured me they could leave a message for someone to call me about the amount due. I also sent emails to the Managing Partner, Tracy Andersen, twice and have heard nothing back on the emails or my phone messages. Will not do work for such an unprofessional company who do not show the courtesy to respond to anything. Obviously do not recommend them at all.
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01/12/2017  2:16:52 PM by: 35992 Jump to Last Post

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Optima Lending Service Has anyone worked for Optima Lending Service?  
I accepted 1 assignment in 2016, the accepted my fee and paid within 30 days. Received loan documents in timely manner.
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Has anyone worked for Optima Lending Service?
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EMD Settlement Group Has anyone worked for EMD Settlement Group before?  
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Has anyone worked for EMD Settlement Group before?
I did a signing for them for the first time about 2 weeks ago. I am still waiting for payment. I had to invoice them by email. I would like to get a mailing address for them if anyone knows it. Thanks in advance.  jmschultze
This used to be Blackburn Settlements and from my research have changed business names a lot, seems kind of sketchy They just called me for a job and I'm not sure if I want to take it.   Jeff701
She does have a so so reputation. She called me for a signing for 7/7/2016 and I accepted and then did my research. I decided to go ahead with the signing, although I was hesitant. As it turned out, I received payment 8/5/2016. The assignment was a single page notarization, not a full refinance, and I felt if I didn't receive payment, I knew who to contact to follow up on collections. Also check out NotaryRotary for information on her.  Doris_CO
I did a signing for EMD Settlement in in May and received my payment within 30 days.
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She does have a so so reputation. She called me for a signing for 7/7/2016 and I accepted and then did my research. I decided to go ahead with the signing, although I was hesitant. As it turned out, I received payment 8/5/2016. The assignment was a single page notarization, not a full refinance, and I felt if I didn't receive payment, I knew who to contact to follow up on collections. Also check out NotaryRotary for information on her.
  28205bj
I have accepted an assignment from EMD, they were good and paid within 30 days.
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I did a signing for EMD Settlement in in May and received my payment within 30 days.
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She does have a so so reputation. She called me for a signing for 7/7/2016 and I accepted and then did my research. I decided to go ahead with the signing, although I was hesitant. As it turned out, I received payment 8/5/2016. The assignment was a single page notarization, not a full refinance, and I felt if I didn't receive payment, I knew who to contact to follow up on collections. Also check out NotaryRotary for information on her.

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WFG Lender Services Anybody find that WFG Lender Services doesn't meet their fees all of a sudden (last month or so)? They used to be one of my favorite companies to work with, but now they only want to pay me $90 for every closing they offer, no matter the distance. They won't reply to my e-mail, asking why... Joni Schmidt 
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Anybody find that WFG Lender Services doesn't meet their fees all of a sudden (last month or so)? They used to be one of my favorite companies to work with, but now they only want to pay me $90 for every closing they offer, no matter the distance. They won't reply to my e-mail, asking why... Joni Schmidt
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I have completed 2 assignments from them in 2016, they pay within 60 days or when loan closes. You need to send invoice at time of sending loan package and send reminders. Communication is not good, but I assume it's because they are busy. I'm polite if they don't accept my fee I don't take the assignment. Not a big deal, there fine.
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Anybody find that WFG Lender Services doesn't meet their fees all of a sudden (last month or so)? They used to be one of my favorite companies to work with, but now they only want to pay me $90 for every closing they offer, no matter the distance. They won't reply to my e-mail, asking why... Joni Schmidt
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Premier Notary Service How many of you did a loan application signing with Premier Notary Service? I did my first one on October 28, 2016. Before accepting the signing I asked about their payment terms & was told payment was in 30 days. I was just informed by the person in accounting that payment is in 45-60 days. They are listed on notaryrotary & have low ratings from other notaries due to low pay & a long wait for payment. I was told they found me on 123notary. I am not going to accept anymore signings from them. 
I have had 3 assignments, they have been fine, pay within 60 days.
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How many of you did a loan application signing with Premier Notary Service? I did my first one on October 28, 2016. Before accepting the signing I asked about their payment terms & was told payment was in 30 days. I was just informed by the person in accounting that payment is in 45-60 days. They are listed on notaryrotary & have low ratings from other notaries due to low pay & a long wait for payment. I was told they found me on 123notary. I am not going to accept anymore signings from them.
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Mobile Notary Express- Frank Metayer Anyone worked with them? Mary Poncedeleon 
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Anyone worked with them? Excepted 1 assignment at the end of the year. Accepted fee paid within 2 weeks. Mary Poncedeleon
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US Signings Has anyone worked for US signings or U.S. Signings? 2125 E Katella Ave Ste 330 Anaheim Orange CA 92806-6018  
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Has anyone worked for US signings or U.S. Signings? 2125 E Katella Ave Ste 330 Anaheim Orange CA 92806-6018 Yes, I have completed 3 assignments in 2016. Paid within 45 days. documents were received in timely manner. Fee was met, but end of year.
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National Title & Escrow Centennial, CO Has anyone worked for National Title & Escrow before?  
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Has anyone worked for National Title & Escrow before? Yes, they were polite, documents received on time. Met fee requirements. 2 jobs in 2016.
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Notary Signing Service, LLC San Francisco Has anyone worked for Notary Signing Service, LLC? What a generic name!  
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Has anyone worked for Notary Signing Service, LLC? What a generic name! I have they are great pay with 30 days via echeck. at least 12 jobs in 2016
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Signing Companies
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01/19/2017  08:48:53 AM by: Abbondanza Jump to Last Post

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Nationwide Debt Direct Has anyone done signings for Nationwide Debt Direct before?  
They pay on 30 days. You are there to supervise the signing (20 pages) 7 or so sig. You are not there to "sell the service". If there is any questions you call the main office and they do all the talking. They pay very well and will work with you on fees if out of your area. Most time appointments are over in 30 min.  cw2usarmyret
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Has anyone done signings for Nationwide Debt Direct before?
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Has anyone done signings for Nationwide Debt Direct before?
I did 3 signings for them last year. They met my fee request and paid within about 30 days. I would work for them again.  21008
I first started working with them in mid-July, 2015. I stopped accepting assignments in early September because I hadn't been paid. I did not get paid for anything till October after raising Cain. The manager Greg Watson kept telling me his hands were tied since the checks were in the mail. Presumably they had mailed me three - I got one. The other two were replaced by their accounting department. They don't seem to be a bad company to work for, yet my experience with the manager has soured my experience for now since he was less than concerned about my not having received payment and kept saying there was nothing to be done. wponsot  wponsot
I am still waiting for payment for a signing I did 08/28/2016. Today is 11/16/2016. Not to happy!  17408
Never again. Called by Greg Watson, asked to drive 50 miles to accommodate this last minute sign-up for the debt consolidation program. I asked what the payment schedule was and he said 45-60 days and I said I didn't want to take the order because that's too long. He said he'd get me paid within 30 days on this one. Now it's been 60+days and his response was "In regards to guaranteeing a fee paid in 30 days....i don’t have the authority to say that and have never given that assurance to anyone. I'm sorry for the misunderstanding, but this isn't something that I would say. We have agents that travel more than an hour regularly, so this assurance would get me in trouble if I started this." So, I've been lied to and still not paid. Never Again!   esnotary
they used to be a good company to work for - paying within 30 days. I think they are in trouble, though Greg denies it. I haven't been paid for 7 jobs I did for them in October. I wouldn't recommend them now. Ray Cox  Abbondanza
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01/17/2017  1:21:31 PM by: Penny Jump to Last Post

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WFG National Title Insurance Company - Simi Valley Has anyone heard of these folks? I'm having trouble getting paid from 1/13/12 and they're ignoring my requests for payment, not responding to emails, putting me on hold and dropping my call. Really unusual kind of activity. **update** I just reached someone and they claim the agent I was contacting left their company, yet emails went through and there's nothing on VM indicating she's left. The person I spoke with on the phone sounded very strange. Sincerely yours, Notary's Life 
This company is not a good one! Three signings I did for them -- all over 200 pages. Each time I was assured: (1) I would get an additional fee because of the size and (2) Mike would get back to me to confirm that additional fee. I did not receive an additional fee nor did I receive any communication. They keep you waiting for a response until the last minute when it is unethical for you to back out. Tyson called to schedule another signing -- I advised what had happened and he assured me Mike would call and remedy the situation and if I had any problems in the future to call Tyson directly. I did call directly and nothing happened. Then Aaron called for a signing. I explained and he assured if there was ever a problem call him direct. Again - nothing happened when I called direct. Finally, Mike did return a call and asked for copy of e-mail from Helena confirming increased fee and he would OK. Haven't heard back from anyone and haven't received payment. I will not work for them again.  mlrakamom
After communicating with Michael Crowder several times, I finally received payment in full on July 23rd for a closing on January 23rd. I appreciate getting paid, however, I will never work for them again. Stuart J Hoilund  shoilun
I did a closing for them on May 22, 2014. My fee was $130 and was uncontested. After having difficulty logging in to their website to print docs, I did not get to my appointment until 9 p.m. It was a 30 minute drive from my home. I was there for an hour and a half, therefore I did not return home until 11 p.m.!! I have YET to be paid!!! Will NEVER work for this company again. Marcia, IL Mobile Notary  mobilenotary41
I have done quite a few signings for WFG, and they do indeed have some very large packages, but they have always paid very quickly, like within 2 weeks. Their website is a little hard to maneuver on to print the docs, but they also have a team of IT type tech people there to help you navigate. I don't mind taking their signings, especially since they pay so quickly.  Ruth Simons
I agreed to perform a signing for WFG for 10:30am the next day. At 8am I had yet to receive any documents. WFG did not answer any of the 4 phone numbers I called. Nor did they respond to the emails I sent to 3 different people. My last email was that I was going to call the borrower and let them know the signing was cancelled. Moments later (10am) I received a response not to call the borrower that the documents were coming. Then I got an email stating the day would be changed. I called the borrower and basically said to stand by. I requested to be paid via PayPal. I got a call from Mike stating they never pay via PayPal and he would remove me from there list of notaries. I said fine. Be carful here folks. Read the other reviews. Gary Williamson  garyw148
I have noticed that the loan packages are getting very large...so I have begun to notify, particularly WFG whose files average 170 copies...that my minimum fee is increased by another $20.00..As I mentioned before I have had no problems getting paid and have asked each time if the file is larger than 120 pages to add in another $20...but I've had to followup to make sure that it was.....so this week I am sending out notifications to most of the companies I work for to increase my minimum fee to include the $20. Whenever I accept a signing...they will need to include it in the order or I will return the assignment right there and then.........We all have to begin to hold the line on our fees or if you accept less then you only have yourself to blame....Good Luck!  29993
The instructions say you have to include a copy of the Order as first page in the return package (it's their 'invoice'). Then payment is usually within 30 days, max.
If you don't value your time and experience, nobody else will.
  Lee-AR
May not be dealing with them again. Huge packages, lots of work, difficult to get through to anyone and get a response. They pay $125 but if I do anything again its going to be $150.  Dannotary
WFG in Westlake Village, CA is giving me the run around with my fee being received. Completed signing on 9-30-16, it is now 11-29-16. Unacceptable. They claim they are going through a transitional period since Michael Crowder is no longer with them. What has that got to do with A/P getting my money to me?   Joan
I have not received payment since my assignment and invoice to WFG on November 28. Despite numerous emails saying it's in the mail, or will be in the mail, zero. Penny 1-17-17 /Penny Henritze  Penny
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US CERTIFIED SIGNERS US Certified Signers are wonderful, the nut who posted something negative must be incredibly incompetent for him not to have been paid, however upon further research he says this about all companies. These guys pay right away and are so nice and apprecietive of me. Thank You Stephen and Michael!!!!! [:)][:)][:)] 
As ALWAYS just opened my check (second one this month) from US Certified signers. I've been working with Michael and Stephen for three years and have NEVER had a problem with any payment. I wish all my signing companies paid me as regularly and quickly as Michael! Kathleen B  Kbinstock
I did a signing for this company and was paid in a timely manner. I would work for them again in a heartbeat! They're wonderful![^]   catmama47
I have done one assignment for them. It was a simple grant deed and paid well considering it was one notarization and only 4 miles of travel one way. I got paid in 22 days.  IntegrityNotary
US Certified Signers have always been a pleasure to work for. From the point of being offered a signing, to getting paid. The last few calls which have been within the last few months, I was either booked, or it was out of my area and regretfully had to turn them down. Hope they keep trying me [:)]   PlsSign
This company has been one of my clients for several years and they are a great group to work with. I have even kidded Steven and Michael that they sound so much a like that they could be brothers! Love working for them. They never hand hold or have a bunch of "rules" that you have to follow. If you do your work right, they will use you over and over.[:)]  bakerbee
[:)]I have been a very succesful Notary Public for the past ten (10) years and I am certian, US CERTIFIED SIGNERS is absolutely the Best in the Industry. Their standards set the bar for the rest of the signing companies. They have been a great help to me over the years so I value their relationship. Their paper trail is perfect as is they fantastic method of payment which is always fast and so appreciated as sometimes I have to wait 90 days from their colleagues. They are very special! Their fax backs are few and right to the point, no need to send an additional invoice, sometimes by then you have already been paid, no kidding. They are always fair to their Notaries so never is an adjustment ever needed to their quotation. If they don't contact you, contact them, you will be pleased.[:)] michael stuart lutchansky  4842
[:)][:)][:)]I received a call from US Certified Signers 10 days ago for a signing that evening. When I got home I looked them up on 123 Notary and saw all positive reviews. Now I know why. Their instructions were clear, the signer was well informed and I received payment in 10 days! What more could a notary ask! I hope they call me for future assignments, this is the way a signing should be. BG  Brenda
This company must treat their notaries differently. They still have that ridiculous Notary Liability List and I'm still waiting for payment from 3 signings in early September. I'm surprised at the rave reviews as well........  On the Go
I have not worked for US Certified for some time. But Michael, Stephen, and staff were always a pleasure to work for. Paid me in a timely manner too.   PlsSign
It took over 2 months for me to get paid. I had to call and email them several times about payment. They kept telling me they needed me to send in a form to get paid, which I had done the same night of closing AND 2 mores times after that. I emailed it and faxed it. It was very irritating. I will never work for them again. Sarah Fuquay  sfuquay
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The Notary Spot Has anyone worked for this company? The Notary Spot 7704 W 154th Terrace Overland Park, KS 66223 http://www.thenotaryspot.com/ I heard through the grapevine that they pay really fast.  
I completed a signing for the Notary Spot on June 27, 2016. My payment is now 30 days past due. I have sent numerous e-mails and have received NO response. I have tried calling the company but when I try to get to an extension no one answers the phone and the voice mail is full. Is there any one that has been paid for signing for them in 2016? Diane Harl  dharl
You're in the same boat as lots of other notaries. This company was once good, but has fallen on financial troubles this year. Read the comments below yours and you'll see that no one is getting paid or they're getting paid with bad checks, this year.  Doris_CO
Still awaiting payment for a 4/25/16 closing. Notary Pool entered in Snapdocs that payment was sent but I have called and emailed numerous times and they will not respond. Rhonda Hall, CNSA  Torudi59
I am owed $455 by the Notary Spot for transactions completed from May to August of 2016. It appears they have flown the coup. I am so so sad. Can't get blood out of a turnip. But if anyone has any information that would help, please advise. Donna J. Largen  29163
I am owed $340 from this company. No answer at any number. This is fraud thru and thru. They hired us with no intent to pay. Tobie  34679
Fortunately, I did one job in August and have not been paid. I have also contacted Escrow (Carrington Title) to notify them of The Notary Pool with no response. I am waiting for Snapdocs to allow ratings of Notary firms on their site. This would be a great help. James Steven Ramey  Montafonsteve
I did a resign of a couple pages on July 5th 2016 for $50 still haven't got paid. My Attorney wrote them at the address on their website 213 West Southmore Ave Suite 304 Pasadena TX.77502 returned no such address so today they are resending it to 7704 W 154th Terrance Overland Park, KS 66223 I know it's not much but its the principle they needed it done I dropped what I was doing and done it and after several emails they still haven't paid me. Whoever said they pay well and on time must never work for them as you can see per the following statements by others.  7107
I have done a few signinings for this company in the past. Completed one on Oct 18 2016, have yet to be paid. Followed their instructions to email admin@notaryspot.com with the promise that all emails are responded to next day. That was 2 weeks ago and still no response. I went through their entire phone tree. Finally someone named Hope answered. She said she just started working there 2 days ago. Promised that Michael would call me back by end of day. We will see. My past signings with them usually resulted in payment in 2 months. No more.  astavig
TERRIBLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Michael NEVER CALLS BACK. Phone tree is hooked directly to him...BE CAREFUL...POOR OUTFIT [V] Joseph W. White  BigJoe52
It is now 17 January, 2017 and a signing I did for them on 8.23.16 is still unpaid. Do not work for this firm. I have emailed, contacted the Title and have had no response. James Steven Ramey  Montafonsteve
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S&P Closings Has anyone worked for them? Are they still in business? 
I worked for them twice in 2006. Met my $XXX fee but one was a no-sign due to incorrect docs and they only paid me $50 trip/print fee and would not budge. In 2006 they paid at 30 days, but I have no idea if they are currently still in business. CopperheadVA  CopperheadVA
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Has anyone worked for them? Are they still in business?
I am looking for info on them, I just accepted an assignment from them. Never heard of them before, they are based out of Asheville NC.  botetourt1
Received work from them on July 30,. 2012. However I think they play games...they claim I did not get Note signed by borrowers but I clearly remember discussing the Note and them signing it (borrowers remembered as well). They deducted $15 from the initial agreed fee of $100. So I will keep you posted when I get paid.  humanique
S&P is very much in business - I have worked with them for a number of years, nice folks.... and they generally pay within 30 days wponsot  wponsot
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TranStar National Title So far, I'm impressed with these folks in Plano, TX. I did a signing for them on 3/20/09 and the check was issued on 3/25/09. I did another on 5/6/09 and the check was issued on 5/7/09. I don't think I can ask for better than that! Service seems to be good also. They don't need to hold your hand, and are available for questions. So far, they are on Santa's good list. 
I agree with you! I usually receive the check in a week to two weeks. TranStar National Title is the best TC I've worked with so far.  Lisa T.
Just did a closing for them and got check 11 days later. Very nice to work with.   rmwells@tds.net
I have done several signings for this company and they have paid within 2 weeks. They don't haggle with fee. Great company to do business with. Cordelia Williams  n/a
They are great! Early docs, everything is in order, borrowers are informed, payment within 10 days. I've done enough for them to know that you need to tell the customer on the confirmation call that you need to pick up a copy of TWO forms of ID - they usually send those instructions with the docs but it would be helpful to have that on the confirmation as well.  CopperheadVA
Easy to work for. Good & fast pay. Wish all mine were like TranStar and that they had more in my area. Teri W.  22459
I have had an AWFUL experience with TranStar in Plano, Texas, and I have yet to receive a check for $100.00 from them for services requested and rendered immediately on February 27, 2015. One excuse after another - they only pay every 30 days, then several emails to my inquiries saying the check will be in the mail, is in the mail, and, oh, sorry, it really wasn't in the mail when we said it was, and we tell all notaries to allow a check in the U.S. mail from them in TEN DAYS. People in the Wild West had faster delivery by stagecoach. Traci Weise is the scheduling supervisor, and for the assignment she was top notch. After the scheduling process it all went South quickly. I HAVE YET TO RECEIVE A CHECK FROM THE FEBRUARY 27 ASSIGNMENT --- and it is now April 13. Beware of taking assignments from them. I asked for the name of the CEO so that I could write a letter to see what the problem is, but I have no response to that request. BEWARE. /Penny Henritze  Penny
I like this company. Docs are ready when they call me (or very soon after), they answer the phone after hours, the schedulers are pleasant and polite, assignments sheets are concise and informative, they pay a decent fee, and they usually pay within 21 days. TranStar is on my contact list, and they can call me anytime.  KHSTjudi
They called me yesterday for an assignment last night at 7pm and I accepted it. At 8:19 I received an e-mail it will be tomorrow. So it gets rescheduled for today at 5pm. I turned down 2 assignments and have no docs and no communication. I've called and e-mailed. Finally I called the borrower who called mortgage who said its postponed indefinitely. Should I charge them? For this assignment? The assignments I lost? What would you do? Anne McBride  amcbride
I had to contact her supervisor 3 times to get the docs. She failed to respond then the next day I get this her. I only get maybe 3 assignments a year from them and she thinks blackballing me is a threat. Run don't walk away from these guys. You will get nothing from me so you need to stop emailing. You need to learn what respect is and you are anything but professional. What I said to you wasn’t a threat, it’s a fact. We have plenty of notary’s that know how to be polite and respectful…I am an employee of TranStar and you are not so get over yourself and move on lady. This conversation is over. You will not work for TranStar again….another fact. Thx! Karla Andes Closer TranStar National Title Plano Corporate Center 2301 W. Plano Parkway, Ste. 105 Plano, Texas 75075 Phone: 1-888-766-8500 Ext: 235 E-Fax: 469-229-8822 Anne McBride  amcbride
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Legacy Signing Service Has anyone worked for Legacy Signing Service before?  
Have not worked for them but reports are this company is run by the same person who ran Premier Signing Services in Ohio - historically low pay/no pay. Again, I've not worked for either company...just read a lot Linda http://www.columbiacountynotary.webs.com  LindaH
I have done three signing for Legacy. The first two were paid promptly, but the third is way past due and Miles Prange isn't answering emails. I sued his former company, Premier for four unpaid closings.Never received any payment. Bob Wells  rmwells@tds.net
I have also worked for this company in March have yet to be paid after numerous phone calls and emails. When you call you only receive a recorded message.[xx(] Carolyn Gleitz  cgg821
Did a signing for them in September 2016. Have not received payment and do not respond to email or VM. Stay away! Bruce L Ashman  blashman
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Creative Signings Has anyone worked for Creative Signings before? How creative can you really get with a signing, other than the jokes you tell before you get started?  
One notary claims that this used to be a great company with small packages and great pay. They were associated with Hilton Grand Vacations. But, the notary wanted an apology for being owed for four signings, and the staff was not considerate to him. There was an argument, and they are no longer on speaking terms! Another notary is also owed money from Creative Signings and spoke to the president of the company who also claimed to have trouble getting paid from their clients. A third notary claims that this company used to be Vital Signings. Hmmm.   jbelmont
I was called today for a small package signing (time share, 50-60 pages. They first sent a text and mentioned $50. I replied no, reason fee too small. They called and ask if I would accept $80. It's only 50-60 pages and I only needed to fax/scan back application and notarized documents. I told them yes. They sent me a link to accept their contract. The email they sent indicated payment in 45-60 days. I sent them an email to ask how long it will take to get documents to download and why does it take 45-60 days to pay when most companies pay with 15-30 days. I will keep you informed of response and if I get paid. I was going to call and cancel after reading comments, but since it's local I will give them a chance. I won't do back to back signings for a company unless I know their payment history. Not sure why the one notary is owed for four jobs. Pamela L. Roberson  28055
Good Luck Pamela - I'm reading reports on this company of their taking 60-90 days to pay plus they pay low. No personal experience here..no Holiday Inn either - just reading ratings elsewhere. I, personally, would not have taken the chance. But that's just me. Linda http://www.columbiacountynotary.webs.com http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell  LindaH
Thank you Linda for your reply. I'm still waiting for a response to my email and for the documents. If I don't get documents by 2 p.m. central time, I won't be doing the signing. I don't rush last minute, that's how mistakes happen and accidents in this weather. I clicked on your websites and appreciate your professionalism. I'm a newbie, going on year three. Overall, it's been good. But like you said I hate when they try and lowball the fees. After expenses this past year I didn't even clear half of what I made. I will continue for at least another 2 years or until my dream of becoming debt free is fulfilled. Thank you again for your reply and pray you have a bless, profitable year ahead. Pam Pamela L. Roberson  28055
Well after sending email yesterday and again today and posting comment on their website with no response: I just emailed them and told them I had to cancel due to lack of communication on their end. This is the email I sent this morning: Hello, I'm sorry but I'm going to have to cancel this signing. I sent an email yesterday questioning the time it takes to get paid and advised that I would need documents no later that 2:00 p.m. central time. I have yet to receive a reply, which tells me there are communication problems within your company. I also checked your company out on Notary123.com and saw several people indicate they have not been paid and they were also lowballed on their fees. They also commented that you micro manage and cut fees even after they have been approved. Please remove me from your call list. Pamela L Roberson This is the response I received: On Tuesday, February 17, 2015 1:43 PM, Creative Info <info@creativesignings.com> wrote: #8203;I did respond this morning to your email, and the ntry's that are complaining about not been paid are the ones that have changed their addresses or havent given us their W9 forms. Thanks for canceling 2 hrs before the signing. I will let the client know Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 11:48 AM To: Creative Info Subject: Re: Hight, Comment added by Pamela Lee Roberson I apologize but I check inbox and spam and no reply was received. Their response: #8203;I am not sure what happened then, I saw it this morning when I got in. but I removed you from the order. Thank you for your time Thank you all for taking time to post on companies. I consider myself a professional and do not like the lack of communication between some of these companies. I wish you all the best in the year to come. Pam Pamela L. Roberson  28055
Did a signing followed up on payment for one signing. I check payment status of invoices approaching 30 days. Informed payment 45 to 60 days. I checked with title payment was sent and check cleared a few days ago. Note paying that many days after payment is received is a sure sign that there is financial difficulty or poorly capitalized. Desmond OConnor  tundrades
Creative Signings has owed me $80 since Jan 16th, 2016. They are either broke or crooked. Avoid at all costs. You will be doing the signing for free.  marilynlee1
I have never had issues getting paid and they always meet my fees and I have been working with them for several years. All I can say is the notaries that are posting below obviously are not getting paid due to issue they had doing the closings ie error on docs, sitting on docs and the endless things that inexperienced notaries do!  Chica
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...the notaries that are posting below obviously are not getting paid due to issue they had doing the closings ie error on docs, sitting on docs and the endless things that inexperienced notaries do!
Not obvious at all - that's quite an assumption to make. Linda http://www.columbiacountynotary.webs.com  LindaH
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Newbie Question about loan Docs Can someone tell me what the average page length of an FHA/VA mortgage loan? Or # of pages in general for any loan...just an average would be fine. For those starting out without printers, does anyone have any experience with Staples Copy Center or Fedex Office? Is it a viable option to buying a printer? Any help would be appreciated! Jeffrey Sanchez 
Hi, in my experience I find that it depends on the Lender not necessarily the type of loan. Credit Unions usually have less repetitive documents than other Lenders. As for type of loans typically from smallest to largest is conventional, VA then FHA. As for printing at Staples it will cost you quite a bit. You honestly can get a very basic laser printer for $1-$200.00 these days. I have had to print at Staples & Office Depot at times and definitely eats up alot of the pay. I've spent between $45-60 printing the docs to be signed & borrowers copy. I would encourage you to try & find a way to purchase an affordable, well reviewed all in one laser printer. You can start with basic & as you begin to make money from signings you can upgrade. Hope this helps some.  maureenlazar
Your printer should be able to have both letter and legal trays mounted at the same time. My "old" HP LJ 4100 workhorse has been running for 10+ years. "print speed" is relatively unimportant - they are all fast enough with 25+ pages per minute. DO NOT get an "inkjet" printer - they are slow and costly to feed. Also avoid color printers - same issue. Frankly, a "signing agent" without a printer just don't work. When I bought my printer I paid a bit more to have the shop "fine tune" my "used gently" unit. Result: almost never jams. Paying someone else to print is really not a realistic option. Kenneth A Edelstein Mobile Notary, Apostille / Legalization Processing & Fingerprinting http://www.kenneth-a-edelstein.com  edelske
Thank you for the great advice! I crunched the #'s and it's definitely not cost effective to have Staples do the printing. I just ordered a Brother DCPL2540DW wireless monochrome laser printer. It takes letter and legal and runs about 30ppm. It was a great price and it should be great for me to start off with. Jeffrey Sanchez  jsanc2075
Another question, so the client copy can be in letter size, Back & front? And the title company copy has to be in legal, front only? Are there situations where the title company copy can be on letter paper? Jeffrey Sanchez  jsanc2075
Client copy can be letter size front and back - but keep this in mind....if an error is made during the signing of the "main" loan package, your only recourse at the table is to take a fresh page from the borrower's package copy and swap them out; and believe me, mistakes DO happen at the table because the borrowers don't always listen and follow directions. You're far better off to set your printer up to print the package how it was scanned - pull legal when needed, swap to letter when needed - and print the borrower's package the same way. This way when (not if) the inevitable mistake is made, you have at least one copy you can fall back on. If you can't get your printer set up properly, then print two packages all on legal; the difference in cost here is really minimal. Linda http://www.columbiacountynotary.webs.com  LindaH
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Hide chapping, irritating double-speak You know what chaps my hide? These Title Companies that constantly say how "valuable" Notaries are as the face of their companies, then they cut our fees. I've been doing this for 7 years, and if it were up to most Title Companies, I would be the only one in these transactions that didn't get a raise at all. Standard fee in 2010 - $100. Standard fee in 2017 - $90 (only I rarely go out for $90). The latest is WFG. Before that, Vantage Point Title. Before that, ServiceLink ($87 w/faxbacks) - no, thanks. Working for ServiceLink would be like earning minimum wage after expenses. If we're that valuable to your business, then SHOW US! Actions speak much, much louder than your smooth talk. Joni Schmidt 
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You know what chaps my hide? These Title Companies that constantly say how "valuable" Notaries are as the face of their companies, then they cut our fees. I've been doing this for 7 years, and if it were up to most Title Companies, I would be the only one in these transactions that didn't get a raise at all. Standard fee in 2010 - $100. Standard fee in 2017 - $90 (only I rarely go out for $90). The latest is WFG. Before that, Vantage Point Title. Before that, ServiceLink ($87 w/faxbacks) - no, thanks. Working for ServiceLink would be like earning minimum wage after expenses. If we're that valuable to your business, then SHOW US! Actions speak much, much louder than your smooth talk. Joni Schmidt
Then SHOW US??? You are asking them to "look out for you" at their expense. That aint gonna happen. Every dollar not paid to you is greater profit for them. Break free! Find OTHER revenue from your notary status. It's MUCH easier to earn from individuals directly compared to being at the end of the food chain. Print up a LOT of nice business cards and distribute to every doctor, store, and business for a (initially) 5 mile circle. You CAN succeed if you break the dependence chain to "signings". Re-read your applicable laws, find out what ELSE you can do - drop El Cheepo signing for easier work that adds up quickly. There are many in that 5 mile circle that simply do not know that you are willing to go to their shop. VISIT them, market actively and directly. Waiting for low paying buzzards to "come around" to feeling an obligation to pay you more is not your best option. Kenneth A Edelstein Mobile Notary, Apostille / Legalization Processing & Fingerprinting http://www.kenneth-a-edelstein.com  edelske
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What has your experience been like on Snapdocs? If you work for Snapdocs does that mean you have to be snappy, or a snapper? Just joking. But, what has your experience been like? Many people get high quantities of low paying work. Some hate it and drop out. What about you?  
Well, can't say I like 'em. Too many low offers sent to too many people with not enough info to make a informed decision.
If you don't value your time and experience, nobody else will.
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Received ALOT of orders via text...most are low offers and 40 miles away. When I decline by stating that the fee is too low and offer a much HIGHER fee, I don't hear from them. I am going to delete my profile.  cjaimac
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Received ALOT of orders via text...most are low offers and 40 miles away. When I decline by stating that the fee is too low and offer a much HIGHER fee, I don't hear from them. I am going to delete my profile.
My experience precisely. Kenneth A Edelstein Mobile Notary, Apostille / Legalization Processing & Fingerprinting http://www.kenneth-a-edelstein.com  edelske
I agree with the others. A LOT of texts come through, most WAY out of my driving range and 90% of them low ball offers. The problem is, there are SO many notaries out there that if you don't take the job, someone else will and then I sit home not working and broke, with the knowledge that I value my skills more than they do. As was stated before, if you decline and enter a fair price for the job, they just move on and take someone with less experience. All in all they have us over a barrel. You either take the job at an insulting rate, or you maintain your standards and don't work. B. Webb  39224
I don't get much in the way of low ball offers, but do get a lot out of range ones, and out of state offers too! However DocPros who use me a lot have improved tremendously on their payment schedule wponsot  wponsot
Not Good. They take business away from experienced notaries and don't want to pay...if you get paid at all. Also, not enough info when accepting the offer. I had one that turned out to be a 250 page trust and I drove 1 hour one way and spent over 2.5 hours because the trust needed 6 signatures per person and they were sssllloooowww. Afterwards the company would not even reply to my request for more money. If I had known this I would not have taken the order. If they want to play like that then in the future when I receive the docs I will cancel if they do not want to compensate. These companies know what they are doing when they do that. Tina R. Dinora Certified Signing Agent and REALTOR Phone: 215-799-2326 Mobile: 267-261-8620 Fax: 267-483-1144 Web: VirtualAssistant4u@msn.com Web: DinoraHomes@verizon.net Email: PennNotary@gmail.com  trdinora
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I agree with the others. A LOT of texts come through, most WAY out of my driving range and 90% of them low ball offers. The problem is, there are SO many notaries out there that if you don't take the job, someone else will and then I sit home not working and broke, with the knowledge that I value my skills more than they do. As was stated before, if you decline and enter a fair price for the job, they just move on and take someone with less experience. All in all they have us over a barrel. You either take the job at an insulting rate, or you maintain your standards and don't work. B. Webb
Respectfully, "I sit home" - IS your problem. . You need to be actively marketing yourself - WHENEVER you are not working. Does every business, and medical office within a 25 mile circle have your business card? Perhaps a small ad in the local paper? Lawyers often need mobile notaries too. . Put a filter in your text receiving device to eliminate them - and thus avoid the frustration of their cheepo texts. Without that pesky annoyance you can concentrate on marketing. You can maintain your standards. They are NOT the only game in town. Kenneth A Edelstein Mobile Notary, Apostille / Legalization Processing & Fingerprinting http://www.kenneth-a-edelstein.com  edelske
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Ooooh and Awing Over My Discounted Mobile Fees This lady called for my services three times and I had an unusual experience with her I wanted to report for future reference of anyone who may have similar problems. She knows my fees I discussed with her the previous day. When she expressed dismay at what I was charging today for her request for two hour service, I offered a huge discount I rarely give anyone. I waived mobile fees and gave here free additional servics. What could have been $140 in total fees for what she was requesting, I reduced to $75 just for her. As she remained in question on wanting to pay even that, I had to get another call and put her on hold. I said "while you decide I'm going to get another call." She hung up so I figured she didn't want my services, fine. I didn't care either way. Then she called back and as I tried to get her to agree to the fee, she was still taking up my time "oohing and awing" over my fee. I began going into a tizzy explaining I never offer the discounts she was receiving. No one ever calls expecting two hour appointment mobile services who isn't willing to fork out money for this specialized service. I waived the mobile fee, I waived the rush fee, I gave her 4 free $10 each fees as well. So the fee was going to be $75 for her majesty who wanted white glove services dirt cheap in an expensive city. She expected me to drive 5 miles to her to provide my services and didn't want to pay for it. As the lady continued to "ooooh" and "ahhhhh" over my fee, she finally said okay and at that very moment hung up on me. She never called back. I deduced this lady has control issues, that she didn't really want my services at all, that the previous day I referred her to another service for her needs so she felt it necessary to play a power game with me. Sincerely yours, Notary's Life 
P.S. she wanted 12 signatures. I initially offered $100 with a waiver of the rush and mobile fee. Then I reduced it down to $75 and she was still complaining about the fee. Sincerely yours, Notary's Life  notaryslife
i found out from my experience that when i offer discounts- people just take advantage of me....i find these people to be dishonest and disrespectful... i rarely give discounts anymore (unless this is a senior, or a certain nonprofit) http://www.DianaNotary.com  DianaNotary
I tend to agree. I have a client who calls frequently but I know he's in the process of training notaries in-house so I won't get business in the future from him. Every time I come to his office the first thing out of his mouth is "can I have a discount?" I find him so rude. He had 14 signatures and I gave him 4 free and waived my mobile fee.
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i found out from my experience that when i offer discounts- people just take advantage of me....i find these people to be dishonest and disrespectful... i rarely give discounts anymore (unless this is a senior, or a certain nonprofit) http://www.DianaNotary.com
Sincerely yours, Notary's Life  notaryslife
When someone by telephone asks my fee for General Notary Work, I say the statutory fee in Colorado is $5 per notarized signature/per document. I then refer them to my local UPS store. For NSA work I say it depends on the loan package, how I get it, when and where the signing is to take place. No Discounts, although my fee may differ depending on the customer. If someone like Nations Direct, FASS, or other low-ballers I say for you today only $1000.00.   Les_CO
It costs what it costs, they asked the price, you give it to them. That's it. NO DISCOUNTS. Threw, finished.   Dannotary
Reducing fees makes you look desperate. Who wants their repeat business when they are always looking for a discount. Try that with a dentist, lawyer etc etc.  Dannotary
+1 for DanNotary . One real problem with discounting is trying to remember what you charged to who. "But last time is was only......". I don't need that confrontation. Aiming for the "high end" of the client spectrum has worked for me. Sure, some ask; volume discounting is reasonable. If my client wants 35 Apostille - it's certainly not going to cost them 35 times the base fee for doing one. When there is an efficiency of scale - it's reasonable to pass along a portion. If you really want to "discount" offer a percentage off on the NEXT job. That helps retain the client and lands future business. Kenneth A Edelstein Mobile Notary, Apostille / Legalization Processing & Fingerprinting http://www.kenneth-a-edelstein.com  edelske
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Fla docs drive NY notary nuts - again ! Don't get me wrong - I like Florida, nice people, Disney, Seaworld, Busch Gardens - it's a great place to go. But - the rules (blue ink) and the documents (more on that in a bit) are driving this New York notary to take massive amounts of aspirin. It was supposed to be a simple notary job. The people sounded nice. They were taking a train from Baltimore to Manhattan to an eldery relative to be present for him signing a Quit Claim Deed. They confirmed with me several times, verified that the elderly gentelman had both a valid drivers license and current passport. It should have been so simple....... But - the "Florida syndrome" struck me again. The notary section had (with of course my changing the name for posting): "Sworn to and subscribed before me by Charles Smith, a single man, unmarried, widower of Sally Smith." So many problems for such a small sentence! First: "a single man" - how can I state that - he cant prove to me he is single - there is NO Way for anyone to prove their marital status. Second: "unmarried" - kinda the same as the first. Finally: "widower of Sally Smith" - how can I possibly attest to that? There was no additional documentation of any kind other than his ID - plenty of relatives to say it was true - but nothing else. EVEN IF THERE WAS both a marriage license, and a death cert - I am only allowed to notarize HIS NAME - nothing else. The document was prepared by an attorney in Florida - whos secretary, during several calls kept telling me he was "in conference" - even if I reached him - there was nothing he could say that would "make it right". In the end the man signed the Quit Claim Deed - and I attached a standard notarization - the most I could do. The secretary of the law firm repeatedly told me that the wording was necessary for the deed to record under Florida law - but she eventually agreeded to my using a standard NY "loose ack" attached to the Deed. Unlike my blue ink follies - this time I know I am "legit" - but feel unhappy that - due to the differences in laws - it might not file. On the other hand, it's unfair of the attorney drafting the document to think that I could, using my seal, add credibility to such a statement. There is the possibility that the lady is quite alive - and the meeting before me an elaborate act - part of a scam. In the body of the document the affiant makes the same statement - one that I cannot work with in the "notary section". This is becoming a more common event - the notary section being used to sanctify facts and status - way beyond the ID of the affiant. I choose to not strike out the offending section, but rather just attach a loose ack and leave that part entirly blank. I don't have any other "solution" - it takes divine intervention (which unfortunately I really don't deserve) to work with Fla docs. Ken 
Ken, [;)]you are a riot! It's not just you, not just NY vs. FL, it's everywhere. There's such a negligence from all the various parties in preparing notarial certs - this seems to be the bottom rung on the ladder of Important Things To Clean Up inside the industry. I understand that much of the problem has to do with the software used to populate fields in mortgage documents - fixing or editing them is not always an easy task. Still - explanations are NOT excuses! I worked with several of the popular softwares used - for a huge company with maybe 20 software geeks. When the software came out, it took whatever was put into the mtg vesting line and used that to populate the mtg signature line AND the notarial cert. They did that ON PURPOSE, so all 3 lines would match. Well, as your case in point illustrates - that's NOT CORRECT. Most vesting lines include (according to state) marital status, often include how title interest is held ("full rights of survivorship" or "as tenants in common", etc) - and all that verbiage would transfer to both the signature lines and notarial certs. First I spoke with the software people, then they went to the legal dept, who in turn went to the Really Big People, who went BACK to the software designer ... all this went on for years, and I never did see it fixed. Ultimately what I was continually told was "That's WHY we get CPL's and leave it to the title agent to make sure it gets executed & recorded properly." Another change I managed to roll with for years - the requirement to have a bunch of Affidavits notarized was removed, and the consequent change to the documents was simply to delete the notarial cert. Probably about half of them continued to come back notarized - meaning that closers would see the title "Blah Blah Affidavit", minus ANY further indication of any notarization being requested, and they would determine on their own to notarize. (I can not recall a single time anyone CALLED me to ask whether or not they should, or what type of notarization to use).[:p] We're talking about 10-20 THOUSAND loans. That's why when I left, I knew I'd find a place out here for a decently experienced 'closer'[;)]  Renee
Thank you Renee, Now I understand the root of the problem. Software! "The computer did it" - an often given "explaination" for things so foolish that a human could not possibly have done it. Software is something that I do know! I worked for a brokerage house (the one with the pet bull) for 25 years. I was the Network Admin, LAN manager, chief troubull shooter - all in one. I got lots of education and training in software. Microsoft Cert Sys Engineer, Novell, Cisco, Banyan, etc. My little network "New York Trading Operations" had several thousand workstations and a few hundred servers, routers, firewalls, etc. Of all the trueisms in my software / hardware experience spanning the last quarter century one seems to be most appropriate for this august forum: GIGO --> Garbage In Garbage Out. Just like the human body. So I have just learned from your most informative post that the tech weenie did not bother to strip the vesting and other "baggage" from the individuals name when forming the notary section. THAT explains it - yup - you got a bulls eye on root of the problem for sure. You did not beat me over the head on my tactic of just ignoring the notarization on the QCD completly - and replacing it with a standard ack - so that approach MUST be right! Relief, joy, serenity are mine, I did the right thing! Btw: if the document uses the word "affidavit" - but does not have a notary section - I just assume the form designer does not know how to spell "statement". Loose acks are used by me for replacing invalid acks - not added by guesswork. If us notaries really learn and stick to our governing laws, the ones in our home state, the ones we swore to uphold when we received our commissions - the priority of that "tech weenie" to fix the problem will increase. Ken  edelske
Ken..since you never got to speak with the attorney IMO I wouldn't blame him...sounds to me like you got bad advice from the secretary/paralegal. And this bothers me...you stated she said " even if I reached him - there was nothing he could say that would "make it right". " and she knows this how?? JMHO One question - did you get two witnesses on the deed? That, I DO know, is required on any deed of conveyance for FL property... Linda www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell   LindaH
Linda, I do blame him without speaking to him because it said at the bottom of the page that he prepared the document. If not personally, it was generated from his office - to me same thing. Otherwise I am asked to accept "someone or the computer" did it and you will just have to work with what you have. The "top dog" is always responsible IMHO. Yes to two witnesses - BUT even though I "know" it's a requirement - if the document did not have a preprinted witness area - they would not get witness signatures. I fill out the forms AS presented - if there is an error in preperation - and I can't reach anyone to ask about it - I just fill in the form legally; adding nothing based on "my judgement". May sound robotic but seems safer than guessing. We are NOTARIES not attorneys, we check the ID and notarize the signature - per my County Clerk ----> "Nothing More!". She did not state the part about "making it right" - my wording was a bit vague - I would not have accepted the attorneys "it's OK" but would have asked for a replacement document - if I had reached him. Ken  edelske
I suppose this doesn't really add anything to the discussion, but I throw in my 2 cents. What the? I work with Florida residential and commercial real estate attorneys on a regular basis, also with their staff notaries and paralegals. Not wishing to speak ill of an attorney and circumstances I am not familiar with ... 1. "because it said at the bottom of the page that he prepared the document." For a Florida real estate deed, the name & address of the attorney preparing the document is placed in the upper left corner of the first page, beginning with "Prepared by" and often containing "without examination of title" where the attorney has not done a full title exam. This is so the Florida Bar and others can quickly verify if the attorney who prepared the document is admitted to practice law in FL ... if not and if caught, UPL and here they come after you! "...by Charles Smith, a single man, unmarried, widower of Sally Smith" within the notarization block. No way! I am not a Florida notary, but I have NEVER seen this as a requirement in a notarization block. It isn't necessary there. For multiple reasons under Florida real property, estate and conveyance tax laws, it is often necessary in the first paragraph of the deed describing the grantor/releasor, but the notarization block doesn't need it. Also, a Florida notarization block and identification requirements are very specific, which "we" (others and me) routinely modify to show we notaries met CT notarization requirements -line thru, initial and edits. Ink color not a problem. "We" use dark blue ink on Florida documents all the time. Never had an attorney or a recorder bounce on e back in 15 years. "Sworn to and subscribed ..." That's not a standard Florida acknowledgment block for a deed. Of course, I've seen attempts to "fix" title held by two married individuals after one has died using the "widower of technique" deed - but those are other humorous profitable stories that I am sure Linda is familiar with, too. Sounds like a secretary pulled an old free form off the internet and a Florida real estate attorney didn't review it closely. You did what you were instructed. You followed NY notarization law. You TRIED; you did the professional thing and called for further instructions. Not your problem if they get it wrong.  BobbiCT
I have seen this type of wording too that includes the words, "single man". Although the notary would probably not be held liable for notarizing with such wording on a certificate, its not the notary's job or perhaps even their right to certify a person's capacity, or marriage status. So, what are the ways around it? Attaching a loose acknowledgment is probably the safest solution in terms of liability. It fits the legal requirements of the recorder without putting the notary at risk. On the other hand, what if they signer were willing to sign an "affidavit of single manliness". I solemnly swear that I am a single man, so help me God!!! That affidavit would constitute one form of possibly acceptable proof that the person is single. When people travel to Mexico, they used to bring an affidavit of citizenship which constituted proof. This is a similar idea.  jbelmont
"I suppose this doesn't really add anything to the discussion, but I throw in my 2 cents. What the? " Bobbi - your posts ALWAYS add something to the discussion....when I see you've posted I know I'm about to read something that's straightforward, to the point, factual and informative. In other words, I get taken to school with every post you make!!!...<G> Linda www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell   LindaH
History Lesson!! . "Almost" ten years have passed. We are all older. But, as to the topic and discussion: Nothing Has Changed. . There is a lesson here, but I don't know what it is....... Kenneth A Edelstein Mobile Notary, Apostille / Legalization Processing & Fingerprinting http://www.kenneth-a-edelstein.com  edelske
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History Lesson!! . "Almost" ten years have passed. We are all older. But, as to the topic and discussion: Nothing Has Changed. . There is a lesson here, but I don't know what it is....... Kenneth A Edelstein Mobile Notary, Apostille / Legalization Processing & Fingerprinting http://www.kenneth-a-edelstein.com
Still, Ken? What happened now? :) Linda http://www.columbiacountynotary.webs.com  LindaH
SOS, Nope, not a distress call - Short for Same Old ...... . This time an attorney written POA, which weirdly had in the notary section "Before me appeared Mickey Mouse the rightful heir to the Daffy Duck estate". . With apologies to Peter, Paul and Mary: When Will They Ever Learn ?? . Kenneth A Edelstein Mobile Notary, Apostille / Legalization Processing & Fingerprinting http://www.kenneth-a-edelstein.com  edelske
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