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HighDesertNotary

California
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Posted - 09/11/2010 :  11:32:11 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a jurat stamp and am working on designing an ack stamp that will fit in my briefcase... it's getting a bit full.

With the exception of my seals, of course, I design all of my own loose forms and stamps. It's just a personal preference. This is what my jurat stamp looks like:

http://www.highdesertnotary.com/images/jurat%20stamp_1.5x3.jpg

The image itself is rather large, but the stamp is actually 1.5" x 3" and I've found it to be just the perfect size. The signer(s) names have a line to themselves, so there's plenty of room.

The ack stamp is another thing. I still haven't been able to get it to a size that I like yet.

For times when I have to use a loose form, I always use a stamp on the signature page that indicates a loose form is attached. I designed these as well. Because California has such strict wording requirements for certificates, these stamps reference the applicable state code. Often, people grouse about my not using the pre-printed wording on their documents. By citing the code, it puts the "blame" on the state, not me. I always like to give people a tangible reference instead of relying on my word. You can see those here:


http://www.highdesertnotary.com/images/attachstamps.jpg


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PWinFL

Florida
469 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2010 :  5:22:47 PM  Show Profile  Visit PWinFL's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I too have ack and jurat stamps, but don't hardly use them at all. I don't have an Attested Copy stamp because, as Robert pointed out, the certificate is rather lengthy. However, since I'm the one making the copy, and I usually do it in my own office, I have a Word document with just the certificate. Then I adjust the margins to where I want the certificate printed on the copy. Works great. Just a thought that you may do the same. The same procedure works for general acks and jurats too, if necessary, and if the document signing takes place in my office.


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FlaNotary

Florida
59 Posts

Posted - 09/09/2010 :  5:01:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit FlaNotary's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have both an acknowledgment and a jurat stamp. I don't have to use them all that often, because most of the certificates I am presented with can be fixed with a few minor revisions, which I do by hand. I avoid loose certificates at all costs. I don't particularly think it is good practice to use them... I know in California, your acknowledgments are so long and the wording is so specific that there is barely room on a document to include the required wording, and if the wording already present is incorrect you really have no choice but to attach a loose one. But in Florida, our acknowledgments can be very short and do not have to utilize the specific wording set forth in the statutes.

I use an Ideal 300 stamp for both the ack and the jurat. I would like to get a stamp for photocopy attestations, but the certificates we are required to use are a whole paragraph - much like the acks in California - and I am concerned that the writing would be too small to photocopy or fax well. I've looked into getting hand stamps (that are not self-inking) for copy attestations, but then I wouldn't be able to find an ink pad large enough

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crtowles

California
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Posted - 06/15/2010 :  09:19:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A Acknowledgement and a Jurat inked stamp is essential IMO. I have had them for a couple of years now. They save allot of time. They are especially useful when you have a borrower that has a document that has enough room where you can just stamp and notarize the actual document and don't have to attach a certificate. Although we use certificates frequently I like it much better and IMO safer when the notarization is on the actual document. Plus I have had a few folks that have insisted that they were told that they had to have the notarization on the actual doc. So rather than have a debate on this if they have enough room I kindly oblige them.

Carmen
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DianaNotary

California
171 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2010 :  09:22:21 AM  Show Profile  Visit DianaNotary's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Having a jurat stamp is a great idea. I ordered my jurat stamp when I just started in this business, and ever since I am using it. Besides the fact that it is convenient it is also practical. Also, more people prefer a stamp on the actual document rather than a loose acknowledgement. [ I am a California Notary Public and by law it’s up to the signer to choose how his signature is notarized: either jurat or acknowledgement].

Just for info, this is the correct jurat wording for California:
State of California
County of _______________
Subscribed and sworn to (or affirmed) before me on this _____ day of _____________________, 20_____, by __________________________, proved to me on the basis of satisfactory evidence to be the person(s) who appeared before me.


____________________________
signature



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MrEdinCa

8 Posts

Posted - 01/05/2010 :  07:43:14 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On the contrary, I like my Ca. Ack stamp. Yes, it is rather large but when the document does have the space for it,& the notary stamp, I much prefer it over attaching a loose certificate.

Both the Ca. Jurat & Ack. stamp have the space problem if there is more than one signer, &, if you don't have a pen that writes with a fine line ,to write in the small space provided for the name of the signer.
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joanbergst

California
360 Posts

Posted - 01/04/2010 :  8:32:12 PM  Show Profile  Visit joanbergst's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I don't think the purchase of a Calif ack stamp is a good idea.
Most documents will not have the space available for the ack verbiage and the notary commission seal.

The jurat verbiage is very short and that is why I carry a jurat stamp. Lisa is correct that there is not much room on most jurat stamps for the signer(s) name and the notary signature. If I have 2 signers I just hang the 2nd signature off the line.

Just my opinion and maybe other notaries have have a different experience or opinion?

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MrEdinCa

8 Posts

Posted - 12/30/2009 :  5:42:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How big is that Ca Ack stamp you custom ordered? (Sounds like it could be a whooper!) I use, depending on the occasion, a CA jurat stamp & Ca Ack stamp, & you are right, there is not much room for everything that is needed. It seems the Ca. Jurat stamp gets used a lot because not many lenders/title companies use the Ca. compliant wording.
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Lisa T.

California
391 Posts

Posted - 12/30/2009 :  2:10:59 PM  Show Profile  Visit Lisa T.'s Homepage  Reply with Quote
Here's the link to the company I was able to design a customized jurat stamp, and the stamp cost no more than a non-customized jurat stamp ordered from some other company.

http://www.laserrubberstamps.com/
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Lisa T.

California
391 Posts

Posted - 12/30/2009 :  2:01:49 PM  Show Profile  Visit Lisa T.'s Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have since ordered a custom jurat stamp - I say custom because I was able to design it to the size and font I wanted so there's plenty of room for clients names and my signature. I ordered the largest stamp they make - the Trodat Printy 4926. CA acknowledgment wording seems to be too much to fit in a stamp. I'd like to know where I can order an acknowledgment stamp.
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crtowles

California
553 Posts

Posted - 09/18/2008 :  3:55:00 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have both...I love them. When a client wants the actual document itself stamped (providing there is enough room) a jurat and or acknowledgment stamp comes in real handy. I don't particularly like to attach loose certificates. For one they can be lost or reattached to other things if you don't use the ones that have you write a description of the document or emboss the certificate and the document together.

Carmen

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CopperheadVA

Virginia
420 Posts

Posted - 09/18/2008 :  10:40:52 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have personalized ack, jurat, and copy certification stamps. I got them in July 2007 when Virginia went to mandatory same-page notarization. No loose certs allowed. I grew to really like the idea, because I feel it does help prevent fraud. However, in July 2008 it went back to loose certs being acceptable, provided the name of the person who's signature is being notarized is included in the loose certificate. Same page notarization is preferable by VA if at all possible.

I do like the ack & jurat stamp to include a line for me to write the name of the person who's signature I am notarizing. In fact, I wish it had two lines for when I have two signatures to notarize on same doc.

CopperheadVA

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Lisa T.

California
391 Posts

Posted - 09/16/2008 :  8:22:09 PM  Show Profile  Visit Lisa T.'s Homepage  Reply with Quote
I use only loose certificates. I have yet to find an ack or jurat stamp with enough space to write in "myname, notary public" and the client's name. I even custom ordered one and had to send it back.
It just wouldn't do. Once I had a borrower with a name like: Elizabeth Geraldine Martinelli Christopherson. So the jurat stamp is all of 4 inches and the name would extend another 6 inches with my writing. What if she had a spouse? Yikes!!!
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apaloosa

54 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2008 :  2:15:48 PM  Show Profile  Visit apaloosa's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I just carry spare ones in case as well as the All Purpose Certif. as there may not be room on a page for the stamp.

Apaloosa
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edelske

New York
815 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2008 :  08:18:24 AM  Show Profile  Visit edelske's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I carry both "loose acks" and an acknowledgement stamp. Many folks want to fax the notarized document and a separate page is harder to fax as NY notary law requires the acknowledgement to be attached (stapled) to the document. The loose ack looks better - but both are the same legally.


Ken
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Lee-AR

Arkansas
678 Posts

Posted - 05/19/2008 :  06:21:19 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
AR: I suppose they are. Lots of people seem to like/want them.
I just have loose ones for those rare times that it's needed.
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jbelmont

California
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Posted - 05/19/2008 :  03:11:13 AM  Show Profile  Visit jbelmont's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The rules differ by state, so please state which state you are writing from when answering this one.

Are Jurat stamps a good idea? They would include the verbiage for a Jurat in case you need to notarize a form that doesn't already have the wording ( or perhaps has the wording wrong ).
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