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edelske

New York
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Posted - 06/01/2011 :  4:51:47 PM  Show Profile  Visit edelske's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by The Lone Notary

It always makes me feel stupid and inferior to think the signing service feels it must provide blow-by-blow instructions.



More often than not the "instructions" refer to documents that are not part of the package - they are just generalized "boiler plate". The same for the "list of must be notarized documents". I used to call about it - but always told "O, in your case, you can disregard that section or instruction".

Our industry, unlike the computer industry does not follow the ancient and honored practice of "GIGO" (Garbage In - Garbage Out), but rather the pros (most of whom read this forum) - take Garbage In and produce Quality Out. New acronym Mr. Webster: GIQO


Kenneth A Edelstein
Mobile Notary, Apostille / Legalization Processing & Fingerprinting
http://www.kenneth-a-edelstein.com
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The Lone Notary

California
10 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2011 :  4:04:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is a great topic rwedertz! You made me laugh out loud. I could have written your post myself! It always makes me feel stupid and inferior to think the signing service feels it must provide blow-by-blow instructions. Why did the Notary go to classes? It is really too bad. How to dress? I'm amazed that people do not know what 'Professional Dress' is. Are the professional dressers all in their 50's and 60's? No offense 20 somethings. : ) No wonder the praise when they come upon a notary that knows what to do and how to dress and comport themselves. It makes one wonder, if they don't know how to dress, how on earth do they come across in their grammar and conversation. Good grief!

Edited by - The Lone Notary on 05/08/2011 4:24:56 PM
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becmiller

Utah
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Posted - 05/07/2011 :  11:59:42 PM  Show Profile  Visit becmiller's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The worst second-hand job I can remember was from years ago. I got a call from a good SS I enjoy working with and they said, "PLEASE, we have got to have you go 100+ miles to a signing that we had a Notary Public local to the borrower perform yesterday. She sent us back the package and she printed on both sides of the paper, so the note is on the back of the 1003 Loan Application and when she ran out of paper she began using scratch paper she had laying around." I said yes and they e-mailed me the documents. I drove to the borrowers and they told me quite a tale of her unkempt, unprofessional and scattered behavior. They were very glad to still be able to sign and keep their rate and terms. It was a pleasure, and very nice to be appreciated.

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claudia

Texas
54 Posts

Posted - 05/27/2008 :  4:44:24 PM  Show Profile  Visit claudia's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hey what gets me is you have schools and others who want you to get a document notarized do not have the proper notarization on the document. What? when you ask them about it they say well a lawyer said its fine. I'm like what lawyer in his right mind would do that. I suppose they are out there but geez.
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rwedertz

New Mexico
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Posted - 05/25/2008 :  1:50:31 PM  Show Profile  Visit rwedertz's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have to agree with the comments below - especially with Kenneth - some of the messes I am called out to repair are totally off the wall. I love it though, and I'll usually work it in between signings when I am in a specific area, obviating the need most times to have to travel a distance to cover one document, but I don't do it for low-ball pay. So like the man says, keep making those stupid errors and don't ever check your work. The other side of the coin is, that those of us who are professionals, are inundated with 2,456 pages of instructions (from either title companies or signing services) telling you how to perform a loan signing. Oh yes, and what clothes to wear. Next thing will be telling the notary to take a bath. Stupid notaries are also responsible for all of this fax-back silliness that signing services are now wanting (ServiceLink and a host of others)to assure the signing was done correctly.
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crtowles

California
553 Posts

Posted - 02/13/2008 :  4:03:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great post Kenneth!! I can always count on you to bring a smile to my face. :)

Carmen
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jbelmont

California
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Posted - 02/13/2008 :  03:52:10 AM  Show Profile  Visit jbelmont's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think part of the problem is that they didn't read the section of many people's loan signing courses that say, "Never use white out".
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Kelly

California
105 Posts

Posted - 02/13/2008 :  03:42:19 AM  Show Profile  Visit Kelly's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Good Post! Like Kenneth, I don't mind being "sloppy seconds" at all, especially when it pays $$$!

Take care,
Kelly

Kelly Robertson
Coach - Mentor - Instructor
One-of-a-Kind, "How To" Workshops for New Notaries & Signing Agents http://www.SigningAgentCoach.com
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edelske

New York
815 Posts

Posted - 02/12/2008 :  3:55:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit edelske's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I get a lot of calls from folks whose document for one reason or another (errors by the notary) are rejected. They are music to my ears - not that I want unhappy clients..... But, after their "stamp and initial" notarization is rejected - they DO appreciate a proper job and are more willing to pay a reasonable mobile notary fee.

Stamp and initial (only) is the most common, it continues to amaze me that there are so many notaries who do that. Next is the missing venue, followed by the total lack of a statement by the notary.

Here in New York City, the county clerk must "authenticate" the signature of the notary prior to an embassy Legalization. That is where so many are bounced.

Gobs and gobs of WHITE OUT are a hoot! I've seen the stuff so thick that the paper would never pass thru a copier!

I dont get either angry or sad anymore - I used to, but consider the "redo" as a source of business. If the other notary did it right the first time they would not have come to me to fix it!

So - with my usual light touch of sarcasm I ask you to:

Just stamp and initial
Ignore the requirement to put State and County
Skip the date
Sign in a new and exciting way - not like your registered sig
Make up your own notary wording - ignoring your state's standard
Cross out errors totally if you forgot your white out
Never print - always use your illegible script handwriting

THEN - send me your wretched refuse - so I can do the job properly.
Ooops, almost forgot >> and earn my fee........

Kenneth A Edelstein
Notary Public, State of New York
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