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zinnburban

California
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Posted - 06/21/2016 :  3:02:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit zinnburban's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Source: https://www.nationalnotary.org/notary-bulletin/blog/2014/08/i-9-forms-notaries-need-to-know

Update for California Notaries, 9-3-14:


We’ve received many questions about the California Secretary of State’s recent statement that CA Notaries should not complete or make certifications on a Form I-9, even in a non-notarial capacity, if the Notary is not a qualified and bonded immigration consultant in California. At this time, we have not received any additional direction on this issue from the Secretary of State’s office other than what was shared with the NNA in August. We will let our Notaries know if we receive any updates from the CA Secretary of State’s office.

Employees who work with I-9 forms and hold a CA Notary commission may wish to consult with a qualified attorney or their employer’s legal counsel to determine if these new guidelines will require any changes in their duties.


quote:
Originally posted by LindaH

"..we recommend..." and "...we also feel..."

Zinnburban, would you please cite your source for this information so proper credit can be given?



Linda
http://www.columbiacountynotary.webs.com

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wac283

South Carolina
9 Posts

Posted - 03/23/2016 :  12:24:26 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
N3 Website FAQs shows, "What are the Fees for Service?
Rates for service our Remote I-9 service start at $65.00"

"What forms of payment do you accept?
For your convenience we accept all major credit cards and debit cards."

So, it begs to question why $20 for something that a company/employee is paying over triple for, and if the pay is immediately received by N3, why a 45+ day wait!


Cheryl M Sievers

Edited by - wac283 on 03/23/2016 12:25:50 PM
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LindaH

Florida
1754 Posts

Posted - 12/21/2015 :  05:53:54 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"..we recommend..." and "...we also feel..."

Zinnburban, would you please cite your source for this information so proper credit can be given?



Linda
http://www.columbiacountynotary.webs.com
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zinnburban

California
19 Posts

Posted - 12/20/2015 :  12:23:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit zinnburban's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Cannot do I9 in the State of Ca.
Notaries asked to assist in the completion of Form I-9, Employment Eligibility and Verification, beware: the uninitiated can easily be led into an unauthorized “notarization” or worse, notarization of one’s own signature. What you don’t understand about the Form I-9 and related documents can hurt you!
Form I-9 Review and Verification: Not a “Notarization”!
Here’s where the issue becomes dangerous for unsuspecting notaries. Many employers ask notaries serving as their Authorized Representative to affix their notarial seal to the certification section of the Form I-9. Never do this: the Form I-9 does not require an authorized notarial act of any kind, for either the employee’s execution of the document or the Authorized Representative’s.

Still worse, employers frequently ask notaries serving as their Authorized Representative to complete additional forms that exceed the instructions provided by USCIS for the Form I-9. Typically, these forms have the notary/Authorized Representative attesting to various statements (“I attest that I am a Notary Public in good standing”; “I attest that I agree to act as Authorized Representative for ________”; etc.), then signing and sealing the same statement. This is a clear act of notarizing one’s own signature, which is expressly prohibited in all states.

Realize that if you agree to serve as an employer’s Authorized Representative, you are NOT serving as a notary in any capacity. The Form I-9 does NOT require a notarial act, therefore you must NOT affix your notarial seal impression on it. You are signing the form in the capacity of Authorized Representative of the verifying employer, so we recommend that you indicate “Authorized Representative” as your title, not “Notary Public.”

Since Authorized Representatives are designated by the verifying employer, we also feel that ideally, such designation should come to you straight from the verifying employer, through direct verbal or written communications. It is less than ideal for the employee who is the subject of the Form I-9 to come to you because he’s been “told to find a notary.” Bottom line: if you have any doubts at all that you have been designated by the verifying employer to serve as an Authorized Representative, then decline to perform the service.
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dede1107

Texas
36 Posts

Posted - 07/10/2015 :  07:43:09 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have not worked with this company in a long time, but when they called in last week to do an I-9 Form, I had decided to give them a try again. (The last time, they refused to pay the $20 they had offered.) My Instructions were to make sure the signer completed the top section of Section 1 on the I-9 before the signing, so since we had to call in and go over the steps (after waiting on hold for 10min), I clarified with this one of their representatives. The online part had no section 1, so I had them fill out a paper copy.
I received a phone call today, from a gentlemen from N3, screaming at me because we did a paper copy of the I-9. I explained to him what my confirmation had said. He refused to listen, being a professional business, this company is the WORST! Now this my 2nd experience with them will be my last! Notaries beware!!!

Dana McKinney
Notary Public TX
Central TX
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mariabakies

Connecticut
42 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2014 :  11:50:16 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Even after reading the reviews, I decided to give them a chance. I only had to go down the street.

They called me a million times before the closing. The borrower and I pushed the appointment up 45 min due to time issues. Once, at the closing, I couldn't reach anyone to go over the I9 form. I was on hold for 6 min after someone answered and I told him I was in the middle of an I9 signing and was calling in.

Mark calls me from there at the scheduled time of the closing and I told him I already was at the signing and got put on hold for 6 min while the woman sat there staring at me and noone on their end could bother to answer the phone.

His response was "only 6 minutes?". Yea, 6 min is a long time when your paying me crap. Then he's trying to blame me for changing the time. Ummmm, if u are a reputable business, I should be able to call in at any time and get a hold of someone besides the fact I DID get a hold of someone and he put me on hold and never came back!

NEVER AGAIN! DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME WITH THEM! VERY UNPROFESSIONAL!

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Pworley

Tennessee
6 Posts

Posted - 03/06/2014 :  10:03:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In my 30 years of being a Notary Public, I have NEVER had an experience so horrific that I actually posted it on any website...but today's experience took the cake!

N3 asked me to do an I9 for $20 at my office. I said sure. The appointment was set for noon, however, the client came in at 9:30 and asked if we could do it earlier. It was fine with me.

Unfortunately, when I contacted N3 (as per my instructions) I was blow away by the rudeness, unprofessionalism and condesending voice, tone and attitude of the (no gentleman) person from N3.

Actually, I'm just too upset right now to continue...just know N3 Notary is NO LONGER ON MY LIST of companies to work for. HORRIBLE.
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TGS1985

California
208 Posts

Posted - 10/24/2012 :  12:01:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit TGS1985's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I thought I posted this story before, but I can't seem to find it.

I believe N3 once left me a false bad review of my services on yellowpages.com when I was first starting out. They weren't even clever about it either.

They claimed they scheduled an appointment with me that I never showed up for. Problem was the person who posted it had also posted numerous outstanding reviews for N3. Hmm, if this person was sooo happy with N3 why change notary services? In anycase yellowpages realized what was going on removed the bad review after I brought it to their attention.

Furthermore, something to consider. While they are offering you $20.00 a signing they're charging Title/Escrow upwards of $200.00. At least that what they were going to charge a friend of mine who's a loan officer.

- Tyler Soares -
Notary Public & Loan Signing Agent
www.mobilestocktonnotary.com

Edited by - TGS1985 on 10/24/2012 12:05:51 PM
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notaryslife

California
348 Posts

Posted - 10/09/2012 :  08:02:12 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is a sick organization. Whenever they call, I give them an opportunity to quote their pathetic $20 offer for some one document signing and then I laugh out loud in the person's ear and hang up on them.

quote:
Originally posted by closer4u

I received a call to complete an I-9 form. I was going to be in that area, so agreed to the super low fee. The gentleman was not at home, so I called from the lcoation to inform them of the status. I left a vociemail and continued on with my morning. An hour later I received a very rude and nasty man from their company. I tried to explain, but he kept yelling. I received another call the next day to go for another I-9 for the same fee. Told them I was busy and they asked when I would be available. After the rude call and low fee, why would the even think I would do a job for them. Please think careful when accepting a job-isn't your time and gas worth more?



Sincerely yours,


Notary's Life
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closer4u

Tennessee
14 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2012 :  1:11:35 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I received a call to complete an I-9 form. I was going to be in that area, so agreed to the super low fee. The gentleman was not at home, so I called from the lcoation to inform them of the status. I left a vociemail and continued on with my morning. An hour later I received a very rude and nasty man from their company. I tried to explain, but he kept yelling. I received another call the next day to go for another I-9 for the same fee. Told them I was busy and they asked when I would be available. After the rude call and low fee, why would the even think I would do a job for them. Please think careful when accepting a job-isn't your time and gas worth more?
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notaryslife

California
348 Posts

Posted - 09/27/2012 :  4:54:05 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They're the cheapest lousiest dirtbag scam. I hope they go out of business, they're a waste of time to listen to their incoming call request.

Sincerely yours,


Notary's Life
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timgatewood

Tennessee
27 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2012 :  9:44:57 PM  Show Profile  Visit timgatewood's Homepage  Reply with Quote
N3 Notary called me yesterday and wanted me to go do a "simple & easy" assignment in Jackson TN. Made it sound like almost nothing to do. Then they offered me $20.00 for it ! I am in Memphis - Jackson is 90 miles way (180 round trip). With gas prices the way they are, who drives 180 miles for $20?!?

I don't even go down the street for less than $25 and usually my minimum for traveling notary service in my home county is $30, without any edocs or signing agent services & that is if they pay in cash when I do the work.

I was so flabbergasted at their gall that I actually quoted them a wrong fee just to get off the phone with them. Luckily, they have not called me back to say the fee was approved.

I am changing their name in my Contact List in my Blackberry to N3 Notary - NO WAY based on all the comments here. That way, I will know to tell them no whenever they call. Thank you, 123Notary Forum for saving me loads of aggravation & grief !


-- Tim Gatewood

Notary Memphis
Traveling Notary, Signing Agent & Field Inspector
Serving Memphis & west Tenn.
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LindaH

Florida
1754 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2012 :  5:55:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good point Ken!!

Linda
http://www.columbiacountynotary.webs.com
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edelske

New York
815 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2012 :  4:36:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit edelske's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LindaH

quote:
Originally posted by emteen66

Just got a call from Rachel at this company. They asked me to do a "real easy one" I was to print 2 packets of documents - each about 7-10 pages and take them to a location near my home. No signatures needed - they just needed me to get the name of the person that accepted the documents. They would pay $20 per set, so an easy $40. Then she tells me that I need to bring a check for $15.00 for each set and give them to the person to whom I'm delivering the docs. Wait, what? They wanted checks from ME given to the recipient. I asked why and she said, "that's just what they requested". I asked a couple more questions and she said they would reimburse me within 3 days. When I didn't agree, she put her "manager" on the line (I swear it was the same person). She explained that it was a requirement of the recipient. Seems like someone is getting scammed somewhere in this deal but it wasn't going to be me so I politely declined. Anyone else have this experience?



My suggestion to them would have been "well then, you overnight the docs to me with YOUR checks and I'll deliver them for $20 (within a very short mileage range)...

Good call on your part IMHO

Linda
http://www.columbiacountynotary.webs.com



....overnight the docs to me with YOUR checks AND MY NOTARY FEE.....



Kenneth A Edelstein
Mobile Notary, Apostille / Legalization Processing & Fingerprinting
http://www.kenneth-a-edelstein.com
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edelske

New York
815 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2012 :  4:34:07 PM  Show Profile  Visit edelske's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PWinFL

Using Google for "N3 notary" resulted in the following:

http://www.n3notary.net/




I note without comment that today the above link went to the N3 site which displayed the BBB logo as an "Accredited Business" when clicking the BBB link, the BBB site reported "Page Not Found".

Kenneth A Edelstein
Mobile Notary, Apostille / Legalization Processing & Fingerprinting
http://www.kenneth-a-edelstein.com
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CopperheadVA

Virginia
420 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2012 :  1:53:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
<< They wanted checks from ME given to the recipient. >>

LOL! Now I've heard everything! Yeah, that's a NO CAN DO!!! Good for you for declining!
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LindaH

Florida
1754 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2012 :  1:51:53 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by emteen66

Just got a call from Rachel at this company. They asked me to do a "real easy one" I was to print 2 packets of documents - each about 7-10 pages and take them to a location near my home. No signatures needed - they just needed me to get the name of the person that accepted the documents. They would pay $20 per set, so an easy $40. Then she tells me that I need to bring a check for $15.00 for each set and give them to the person to whom I'm delivering the docs. Wait, what? They wanted checks from ME given to the recipient. I asked why and she said, "that's just what they requested". I asked a couple more questions and she said they would reimburse me within 3 days. When I didn't agree, she put her "manager" on the line (I swear it was the same person). She explained that it was a requirement of the recipient. Seems like someone is getting scammed somewhere in this deal but it wasn't going to be me so I politely declined. Anyone else have this experience?



My suggestion to them would have been "well then, you overnight the docs to me with YOUR checks and I'll deliver them for $20 (within a very short mileage range)...

Good call on your part IMHO

Linda
http://www.columbiacountynotary.webs.com
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emteen66

California
3 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2012 :  1:36:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit emteen66's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Just got a call from Rachel at this company. They asked me to do a "real easy one" I was to print 2 packets of documents - each about 7-10 pages and take them to a location near my home. No signatures needed - they just needed me to get the name of the person that accepted the documents. They would pay $20 per set, so an easy $40. Then she tells me that I need to bring a check for $15.00 for each set and give them to the person to whom I'm delivering the docs. Wait, what? They wanted checks from ME given to the recipient. I asked why and she said, "that's just what they requested". I asked a couple more questions and she said they would reimburse me within 3 days. When I didn't agree, she put her "manager" on the line (I swear it was the same person). She explained that it was a requirement of the recipient. Seems like someone is getting scammed somewhere in this deal but it wasn't going to be me so I politely declined. Anyone else have this experience?
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Diana

Pennsylvania
45 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2011 :  4:40:24 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by carolherb

123 Notary Thank you..
N3 Notary (Northwest Notary Network Inc.)Merissa Larsen Ser. Mgr./ President Mark Greco just call me to do a signing, but first sign their registration pac.
What a joke. Can't back my car out of the gargage for this company.
Thank you fellow notaries for the heads up on now they pay.
Regards Carol A.Herb



Carol A. Herb


The Company I was referring to is Nationwide Notary Network (N3).. Don't tell me they changed their name already?! Now I have to get more aggressive with my collection procedure .. Thank You Carol.
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carolherb

Arizona
2 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2011 :  4:20:15 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
123 Notary Thank you..
N3 Notary (Northwest Notary Network Inc.)Merissa Larsen Ser. Mgr./ President Mark Greco just call me to do a signing, but first sign their registration pac.
What a joke. Can't back my car out of the gargage for this company.
Thank you fellow notaries for the heads up on now they pay.
Regards Carol A.Herb



Carol A. Herb
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Diana

Pennsylvania
45 Posts

Posted - 11/15/2011 :  11:40:17 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by EvaOB

I did one job for them. Never again. It took a lot of badgering for me to get paid a measly $75 job that took and hour and a half to do. After 3 months, they coughed up.

Their reps on the phone are very rude. They don't answer emails. They conveniently drop calls.



How were you able to retrieve your payment? I'm curious because it has been over 30 days since I closed 1 for N3 and they have not returned my calls, faxes or emails.
Thanks
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mass

23 Posts

Posted - 10/16/2011 :  5:21:07 PM  Show Profile  Visit mass's Homepage  Reply with Quote
The paperwork does not have to be mailed in until tomorrow ... so I'm just trying to satisfy my misgivings about this transaction.

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mass

23 Posts

Posted - 10/16/2011 :  5:18:10 PM  Show Profile  Visit mass's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'm thinking of the client here and I really think they are trying to scam him with upfront checks ..... I've never blown the whistle on anyone before, but N3 is wreaking trouble.

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LindaH

Florida
1754 Posts

Posted - 10/16/2011 :  4:49:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"I told the client I was uncomfortable about sending in the checks and would hold the checks and paperwork out until there was clarification about them to the client from the lender. I'm sitting on this now until I hear back from the client"

I disagree with this - you should have either done what your instructions said to do and return everything or refuse to complete the assignment and turn the job back in - you should not be "sitting on" anything. IMO you've put yourself in the middle of a controversy that you shouldn't be in and again, IMO, have overstepped your authority by holding back checks and paperwork.

MHO

Linda
http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell
http://www.columbiacountynotary.webs.com
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mass

23 Posts

Posted - 10/16/2011 :  4:32:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit mass's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This does not sound too good! I did a job for them (no notary stamp required) and I had a bad feeling about the transaction. Like someone said, they were requiring advanced check from the client and then totally illegal ... another post dated check. This was no small change. I told the client I was uncomfortable about sending in the checks and would hold the checks and paperwork out until there was clarification about them to the client from the lender. I'm sitting on this now until I hear back from the client. Yes, CHEAP and DO NOT answer emails or phone calls.
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civey

North Carolina
76 Posts

Posted - 01/24/2008 :  07:17:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anyone have anything good to say about them? They've called and wanted me to do a legal settlement. Doesn't involve much from what he told me and it's not too far, but he wanted to pay me $25.00. I quoted him my price and I'll see if he calls back. It's still atleast 2 hours of work by the time I print, drive, fax and that doesn't include my other cost. What is wrong with people? Maybe he'll find someone to do it that cheap, if so good for him.

I've read nothing positive on here about them, so I'm just checking them out.
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