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jbelmont

California
3106 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2007 :  11:57:49 AM  Show Profile  Visit jbelmont's Homepage  Reply with Quote
As an independent signer, you can make your own policies. Just as long as you are prepared for others to say no to your policy. Its really a question of how high you can afford to keep your standards and still get business.

This original post is from 2005 by the way.
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notarydi

Missouri
10 Posts

Posted - 02/25/2007 :  11:15:03 PM  Show Profile  Visit notarydi's Homepage  Reply with Quote
This sounds interesting - but I have a suggestion for you - check your correspondence for typos! You had many misspelled words in your offer and that throws up a red flag to many professionals....good luck with your new venture.

Diane
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redhots22

California
11 Posts

Posted - 01/30/2007 :  07:41:37 AM  Show Profile  Visit redhots22's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hello,

A few weeks ago I posted my availability of my Marketing Resources. I was inundated with several emails with requests for them. Then I realized something. There are a lot of people in need of training in the Practice of a Signing Agent and Basic Marketing skills. I realized that even if I sent the info over, will they benefit from it and know how to put it into use??? In Our industry we are given tests and books, yet no real information to help us suceed. I've been there! Well I came up with a One-on-One "school" concept that will allow me to coach fellow Notaries in becomming more sucessful in what they do. I will teach you the practice of a Signing Agent in person and out in the Field and how to better market your business to get you more signings. I figure if I can do it then others can. Email me today if you are interested in my School or would like specific details. I welcome everyone and I can assure you that it will be affordable and a worthwile investment. apa_gal@yahoo.com
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crtowles

California
553 Posts

Posted - 01/08/2007 :  05:24:45 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
COngratualtions! Good Job!

C
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ohionotary

Ohio
33 Posts

Posted - 01/02/2007 :  6:47:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit ohionotary's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Russ_WY

Felicia I wouldn't give up.
I am a BBB member myself and I would ask to talk to a supervisor. You have every right to file a BBB complaint on any issue against any business.

I would try using their online complaint service. Always place your complaint with the BBB that services the area the business is principaly located in also.


Sorry for the misunderstanding. My name isn't Felicia. Felicia Cooper is the name of the BBB rep that won't take my complaint.

I think I'll call her supervisor today to see what he/she says. I think I'll try those other numbers she gave me too.
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macdeux

California
79 Posts

Posted - 01/02/2007 :  11:22:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Really! You get $300 per loan package? How do you get them to agree to that? Is it strictly escrow and/or lenders that you work with?

quote:
Originally posted by phyllisL

I live in California, I recieve $300.per loan package that I do. Signing agencies want to pay $75 to $100. They recieve $300. and take their time sending you $100. Dont do signings for them. I turn them down, they are using us! and ripping us off! Stick together!

phyllis

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Russ_WY

Wyoming
10 Posts

Posted - 01/02/2007 :  10:10:31 AM  Show Profile  Visit Russ_WY's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Felicia I wouldn't give up.
I am a BBB member myself and I would ask to talk to a supervisor. You have every right to file a BBB complaint on any issue against any business.

I would try using their online complaint service. Always place your complaint with the BBB that services the area the business is principaly located in also.
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detchra

9 Posts

Posted - 01/02/2007 :  08:33:51 AM  Show Profile  Visit detchra's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Well, I got my answer from the Florida BBB. They said that they don't handle this type of complaint. Can you believe it?? Thank God California's BBB doesn't do that or how else would anyone know about XYZ?

What makes me the most mad is that Total Mortgage Protection is a BBB member! They won't even police their own members. I should have known!

The West Palm Beach BB is nothing but BS. Here is their answer:

Thank you for furnishing us with this information, however, due to
the nature or circumstances of the dispute, we are unable to
process your complaint. We feel you would be better served by
contacting the agency listed below:

Dept of Labor & Security 866-487-2365
Workforce Innovation 800-342-3450

Sincerely,

Felicia Cooper
Dispute Resolution Specialist
bbb5@wpbbb.com
561-842-9278

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detchra

9 Posts

Posted - 01/01/2007 :  9:06:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit detchra's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Watch out for Total Mortgage Protection in West Palm Beach, Florida. They had me get 6 insurance papers signed and faxed back. It's been over 2 months and I still haven't gotten paid. They just give the same BS excuses like XYZ does.

I decided not to mess around with them anymore and I filed a complaint with the BBB. Since they're BBB members, I'm hoping to get paid soon.

Why should we have to go through all this crap just to get paid??? We should get paid within 2 weeks of the signing. The mortgage and title companies can pay us within that time, so why can't the signing companies? I'm weeding out all of the signing companies from my list except for a couple. I'm sticking with working directly for the mortgage, title, and/or settlement companies.
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phyllisL

California
13 Posts

Posted - 01/01/2007 :  10:45:13 AM  Show Profile  Visit phyllisL's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I live in California, I recieve $300.per loan package that I do. Signing agencies want to pay $75 to $100. They recieve $300. and take their time sending you $100. Dont do signings for them. I turn them down, they are using us! and ripping us off! Stick together!

phyllis
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arcee

Oregon
10 Posts

Posted - 12/29/2006 :  12:06:16 AM  Show Profile  Visit arcee's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I apologize for posting a reply in between your topic. I am still familiarizing myself with the system.

Like I was asking, how do you get your name in the list of Mortgage companies, banks and titile companies when they themselves use a third party for the signing services they need? Can you share with all of us - how?



quote:
Originally posted by arcee

quote:
Originally posted by AmandaC

This is a huge pet peeve of mine. When I work directly for the mortgage company or title company, I receive payment almost immediately. The best case was Countrywide, I received the check within one week after signing. When I work for signing companies, at a considerably less rate than the mortgage companies, I have to wait 45 days for my money. So.....XYZ mortgage company calls me with a signing, they will pay $180 w/edocs and I know I can get my money soon, OR.............ABC signing company calls me, asks me to do it for $50 or $75.00 (including edocs) and I know I will have to wait 45 days for my money.......which one am I going to jump through hoops for? That is a no brainer.


How do you get your name in the list of Mortgage Companies and or Title Companies? Would you be kind to share with us? Both Mortgage and Title Companies contract with these Signing Services. I have contacted our local banks and credit unions who does 2nds and contract signing services for closing.


Not sure how to change it.......they will always find someone to do the work cheaply and wait for the money.



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arcee

Oregon
10 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2006 :  11:55:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit arcee's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AmandaC

This is a huge pet peeve of mine. When I work directly for the mortgage company or title company, I receive payment almost immediately. The best case was Countrywide, I received the check within one week after signing. When I work for signing companies, at a considerably less rate than the mortgage companies, I have to wait 45 days for my money. So.....XYZ mortgage company calls me with a signing, they will pay $180 w/edocs and I know I can get my money soon, OR.............ABC signing company calls me, asks me to do it for $50 or $75.00 (including edocs) and I know I will have to wait 45 days for my money.......which one am I going to jump through hoops for? That is a no brainer.


How do you get your name in the list of Mortgage Companies and or Title Companies? Would you be kind to share with us? Both Mortgage and Title Companies contract with these Signing Services. I have contacted our local banks and credit unions who does 2nds and contract signing services for closing.


Not sure how to change it.......they will always find someone to do the work cheaply and wait for the money.

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n/a

Colorado
1 Posts

Posted - 12/28/2006 :  11:21:39 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If this person is a Notary, contact the State attorney General to make a complaint. If they are investigated for non payment they could lose the Notary Stamp

quote:
Originally posted by detchra

ABSOLUTELY!! I completely agree. I think all notaries should start to refuse any signing that SOX has any connection too. I have my own "list" of crappy companies that I refuse to work for, and SOX is on top of the list.

Has anyone heard of CMT Mobile Closings or Christine Hendrickson? I'd sure like to get a hold of her. She's actually worse than SOX. (Hard to believe!) At least when you call SOX, someone answers the phone to lie to you. She won't answer the phone. I called once using *67 to hide my name. She answered the phone, realized what the call was about, then pretended to be her sister & said that Christine wasn't there! If it wasn't so insulting, it would have been funny.

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jbelmont

California
3106 Posts

Posted - 12/15/2006 :  11:28:27 AM  Show Profile  Visit jbelmont's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If notaries consistantly contact BBB when there is a problem getting paid then BBB would have files on all the signing companies. Then you could research the companies online to see who was reliable.
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detchra

9 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2006 :  8:05:19 PM  Show Profile  Visit detchra's Homepage  Reply with Quote
ABSOLUTELY!! I completely agree. I think all notaries should start to refuse any signing that SOX has any connection too. I have my own "list" of crappy companies that I refuse to work for, and SOX is on top of the list.

Has anyone heard of CMT Mobile Closings or Christine Hendrickson? I'd sure like to get a hold of her. She's actually worse than SOX. (Hard to believe!) At least when you call SOX, someone answers the phone to lie to you. She won't answer the phone. I called once using *67 to hide my name. She answered the phone, realized what the call was about, then pretended to be her sister & said that Christine wasn't there! If it wasn't so insulting, it would have been funny.
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n/a

1 Posts

Posted - 12/10/2006 :  04:58:37 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Regarding SOX. I filed a BBB complaint against them through the LABBB. When you also go to the regular BBB and look up SOX, you will find an additional fax number not listed on their website. I copied the complaint that I filed, and sent it via email to the owner and then faxed it to the other number. I was contacted immediately. They indicated they did not receive our company W-9. I faxed it and they againg said they did not get it. No problem, I emailed it to them along with a receipt to verify they got it.
I have since filed a complaint to the Pennsylvania State Attorney Generals office and also with the California State Attorney office. Beth from the company said check was mailed 12/08/06. I told her that if I do not have the check by the 15th, I will start collection action.

It is a shame that companies like this feel that they can do what they want, when they want to who they want and not feel any reprise whatsoever.

I am sure that eventully they will get theirs, till then, lets just all continue to stick together and hope that somehow we can get the word out to out notaries to just say NO!

Dana
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    dfye@mcttelecom.com

    New Hampshire
    681 Posts

    Posted - 12/09/2006 :  12:12:12 AM  Show Profile  Visit dfye@mcttelecom.com's Homepage  Reply with Quote
    Detchra, have you tried to contact the Better Business Bureau and/or the Attorney General's office about SOX?

    Legal Eagle Para Professional Services
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    detchra

    9 Posts

    Posted - 12/08/2006 :  8:33:32 PM  Show Profile  Visit detchra's Homepage  Reply with Quote
    Hello Mountain Queen! Don't get too depressed about invoices coming up on 30 days. I have two invoices for XYZ that are 135 days and 90 days PAST due. Of course, if you're familiar with them then you've heard Brandi's crap that "the check was mailed". She told me mine was mailed the day before Thanksgiving. It's Dec. 9 and I still haven't received it. Must have sent in by Pony Express.

    I'm weeding out ALL signing companies unless I've already worked for them and they've treated me well. I'm staying with title and mortgage companies as much as possible.
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    crtowles

    California
    553 Posts

    Posted - 12/08/2006 :  03:43:20 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
    Hi Rhonda,

    I am sorry about this. You have done just about everything you could besides take them to court. I had a couple of companies that didn't pay me. I use to fax the invoice over and over everytime I would think about it. I also would call repeatedly. When I had my friend threaten them with a letter from her office. (she is a real estate attorney) They finally paid me. Keep at it. Worry the he-- out of them. It takes tome but I am confident you will get paid eventually.

    I wish you the best!

    ~Carmen
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    n/a

    Virginia
    4 Posts

    Posted - 12/07/2006 :  11:20:01 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
    I'm in Virginia and I did a signing for a Company back in June and I have yet to be paid. I call every other day and all I get is the answering machine(I leave messages). I have sent invoices by registered mail. And I have contacted the title company that hired him to find a notary. They said they paid him and there was nothing they could do. They also proceded to let me know that they have had complaints about him paying in the past. WHY DO THEY KEEP USING HIM?
    Anyone have any other ideas of how to get my fee that I worked for

    Rhonda Sayen
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    n/a

    Indiana
    2 Posts

    Posted - 12/07/2006 :  8:54:17 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
    Hi,
    I will say, Signatures Plus will not be around for a long time. We can make that happen faster if all the notaries know that you "will not get paid". I am taking some legal action, any one out there in the same situation?
    Lia
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    n/a

    6 Posts

    Posted - 11/30/2006 :  10:16:07 PM  Show Profile  Visit n/a's Homepage  Reply with Quote
    We steer away from accepting assignments from signing companies and would only consider confirming acceptance of assignment upon receipt of our contract. Why accept an assignment from a third party that does nothing but make a few phone calls and e-mails and is a source of even more confusion.

    Most of the time when speaking with signing companies representives it becomes very clear that these are hourly employees who don't have a clue about what is involved in signing of loan docs and in 45+ days when you try to get paid will only transfer you to someones voicemail who never returns your call.

    Our contract reads that payment is due upon reciept, over 30 days add 18% thank you!
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    n/a

    Minnesota
    3 Posts

    Posted - 11/22/2006 :  09:13:34 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
    quote:
    Originally posted by tanishairvin

    Hi,
    I have done signings with several companies, all except one has paid me for my work. I am suggesting all Notaries beware of Signatures Plus. You may get paid 30,60+ days after signings and it could be well past 60+days. I spoke to another notary in my area and she has said she is seeking lega action. They are good about sending orders, but come time to pay, you will not hear from them. Beware of them. I promise, it is not worth it .


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    n/a

    Alabama
    2 Posts

    Posted - 11/22/2006 :  01:02:41 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
    Hi,
    I have done signings with several companies, all except one has paid me for my work. I am suggesting all Notaries beware of Signatures Plus. You may get paid 30,60+ days after signings and it could be well past 60+days. I spoke to another notary in my area and she has said she is seeking lega action. They are good about sending orders, but come time to pay, you will not hear from them. Beware of them. I promise, it is not worth it .

    Edited by - n/a on 11/22/2006 01:09:14 AM
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    n/a

    New York
    1 Posts

    Posted - 11/21/2006 :  9:21:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
    I have been an NSA since end of Joly this year - I aggressively registered with as many signing companies as I could find - (about 280) of which 30 are 'active' (at least 1 assignment) and 3 or 4 are regulars (more than 5 assignments).

    Overall I have had reasonably good experience with payment - though only 2 signing companies; KC Signing & ETrade; pay me under 15 days as policy.

    In my experience, 24/7; CNI and especially Atlantic Signing Services are a few to steer clear of.
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    SelectProcessing

    9 Posts

    Posted - 05/03/2005 :  12:40:58 PM  Show Profile  Visit SelectProcessing's Homepage  Reply with Quote
    Just about every signing company that I have read a contract agreement for advises its vendors that payment will be forthcoming in 30+ days. As a self employed person, I find it difficult to accept. Why should certified signing agents and experienced notaries who deliver a value added service to both the mortgage and real estate industry have to wait around to be paid in 30 or more days?

    Bottom line is that lenders, brokers, and title companies are typically paid on the date funds are dispersed. So, why does everyone else get paid on time, in time and NSAs are the last to be compensated? Without the expertise, organization, and experience of NSAs, the loan would never get to the point disbursement.



    I hope that this will be one of the issues addressed at the conference in Vegas.
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