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colourfastt

Louisiana
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Posted - 01/13/2015 :  1:16:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit colourfastt's Homepage  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by TGS1985

My experience has been most Lawyers/Law firms are the worst, especially when it comes to not knowing a state's specific notary laws (I.E. verbiage, I.D. Requirements) and paying on time.


Not just notary law; I took the notary class at ULL last semester with a paralegal who works in an estate planning firm. The attorney at the that firm still uses "of sound mind and body" in wills even though that language was removed from the law in 1991.
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betty1957

Illinois
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Posted - 01/12/2015 :  12:34:55 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Everybody seems to be working these documents up and until the last minute!
DH has practiced for 40 years, DD just became inducted into the Illinois Bar, and I am the office manager for DH's small law office. Therefore, I get good free legal advice regarding all documents. He and his associate have told me that most of the documents in these packages, especially the ones with odd wording, are copied and pasted by clerks. Most legal writing is concise.
That being said, I give every Refi, Reverse Mortgage and other signings 2 hours. It shouldn't ever take longer. If the borrower keeps looking around for help to understand what he/she is signing, he/she should have hired my DH, associate or DD to hold his/her hand during the signing, at the office. I call such a signing a "Refusal to Sign", and pack up and leave.
You can tell this is happening when documents are late, and/or 5 minutes into the signing. I will give it a go for 30-45 minutes, but I call my Vendor or the Lendor (per my instructions) and let them know that it is obvious that both parties were not ready to sign on this date, and that, perhaps they will want to review the paperwork and reschedule this signing.
One of these was an all day Rush Job affair for me. I was called for an afternoon ReFi signing, that day. The borrowers wanted to sign for an IN property (1 1/2 hrs. east) in Danville, IL (first), then, when I had to wait for their paperwork, they decided to come shop in Champaign-Urbana (my office is in Urbana), and that they'd be happy to come to my office, which I never left that day. 40 minutes into this Rush Signing, the borrower's didn't like the figures. I got my full fee as a Refusal. No harm, no foul.

betty j. dedman

Edited by - betty1957 on 01/12/2015 12:35:55 PM
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TGS1985

California
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Posted - 12/30/2014 :  7:10:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit TGS1985's Homepage  Reply with Quote
My experience has been most Lawyers/Law firms are the worst, especially when it comes to not knowing a state's specific notary laws (I.E. verbiage, I.D. Requirements) and paying on time.

Thankfully in regards to non-payment all you have to do is said the following magic words, "I'm going to go ahead and inform your State Bar of the situation" and all missing payments magically appear soon after.

- Tyler Soares -
Notary Public & Loan Signing Agent
www.mobilestocktonnotary.com
www.saccitynotary.com
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Dannotary

California
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Posted - 10/27/2014 :  11:32:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit Dannotary's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have to say that coming from a law firm I am not at all surprised. Just par for the course.
Went to a deposition once, al elderly lady accusing me of forcing her to sign a grant deed. The other lawyer was 45 mins late, so I told my attorney that I wanted this lawyer to be responsible for this time I am paying for at $275. an hr. They agreed he would be but then forgot about it quick.
If I never have to speak to or deal with another lawyer again in my life, I'll be happy.
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Dannotary

California
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Posted - 10/27/2014 :  11:30:31 PM  Show Profile  Visit Dannotary's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I have to say that coming from a law firm I am not at all surprised. Just par for the course.
Went to a deposition once, al elderly lady accusing me of forcing her to sign a grant deed. The other lawyer was 45 mins late, so I told my attorney that I wanted this lawyer to be responsible for this time I am paying for at $275. an hr. They agreed he would be but then forgot about it quick.
If I never have to speak to or deal with another lawyer again in my life, I'll be happy.
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edelske

New York
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Posted - 11/28/2013 :  8:36:15 PM  Show Profile  Visit edelske's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Had a read all the words signing. After an hour the borrower was on page 50 of about 160 pages. I called the Atlanta Georgia law firm, which shall remain nameless and "reported in". I told them the borrower would need at least an additional hour and probably two. "Why are you telling me that?" (as if they did not know where the conversation was going). I said I would have to increase my fee. Mr. Attorney said he would check and email me an "adjustment approval". This is what I received:

The closing attorney has instructed me to thank you for the hour of your time... We are not going to be able to pay additional notary fees, so please feel free to wrap up and if you wouldn't mind dropping the documents, as they are, in a FedEx box back to us, that would be appreciated.

Of course I did not do that, way too unethical. However, the borrower did ask "what's going on" and I had to tell the truth. Borrower very much appreciated that I would not "dump" him as instructed. It did take an additional hour and a half for him to sign all of it. I had been paid my standard fee in advance via PayPal. So, realizing that "you can't win them all" - I just shipped the docs and that was it.

I'm still quite surprised by the email I received from the attorney and saved it in the "Classics" folder in my email system. When I get enough of these "gems" I'm gonna write a book.



Kenneth A Edelstein
Mobile Notary, Apostille / Legalization Processing & Fingerprinting
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