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edelske
New York
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 Posted - 11/03/2011 : 8:35:08 PM
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Originally posted by 16554
I am licensed and teach women to protect themselves. I teach concealed carry and firearm safety. I carry 24/7. If you want to know more about me and why I carry you can check out my blog at http://thattexaslady.blogspot.com/2011/05/ladys-biblical-view-on-concealed-carry.html
We are walking unknown into people's homes here friends. You don't know what kind of day this family has had or what they are capable of. I go by myself hours away from home as one of the only mobile notaries in the panhandle and I refuse to be a victim. I walk into a home and I don't know these people, the neighborhood, or even the town. I will not allow myself to be victimized when dude blows his top because the APR is not what he expected.
I had to go to the same house three times one night because the lender would not take NO for an answer. The third time I was met on the porch with a shotgun. I was still outside so I got in my truck and called the police and reported the incident and went home. Had I been in the home, I would not have hesitated to find an escape if possible and if not, protect myself.
I pray everyday that I never have to use the firearm that resides on my hip, but I REFUSE TO BE A VICTIM.
Kaci
Kaci M. Lusk
Mobile Notary
Try to Avoid Confrontations
Retreat if Possible
Defend as Last Resort against serious threat
Very well said!
Kenneth A Edelstein
Mobile Notary, Apostille / Legalization Processing & Fingerprinting
http://www.kenneth-a-edelstein.com |
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n/a
Texas
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Posted - 10/20/2011 : 06:31:26 AM
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I am licensed and teach women to protect themselves. I teach concealed carry and firearm safety. I carry 24/7. If you want to know more about me and why I carry you can check out my blog at http://thattexaslady.blogspot.com/2011/05/ladys-biblical-view-on-concealed-carry.html
We are walking unknown into people's homes here friends. You don't know what kind of day this family has had or what they are capable of. I go by myself hours away from home as one of the only mobile notaries in the panhandle and I refuse to be a victim. I walk into a home and I don't know these people, the neighborhood, or even the town. I will not allow myself to be victimized when dude blows his top because the APR is not what he expected.
I had to go to the same house three times one night because the lender would not take NO for an answer. The third time I was met on the porch with a shotgun. I was still outside so I got in my truck and called the police and reported the incident and went home. Had I been in the home, I would not have hesitated to find an escape if possible and if not, protect myself.
I pray everyday that I never have to use the firearm that resides on my hip, but I REFUSE TO BE A VICTIM.
Kaci
Kaci M. Lusk
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Texas
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Posted - 10/20/2011 : 06:29:10 AM
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Originally posted by Conniek
I use a few words. "I am sorry, we must find out the cause. Let's call. If we call and get resolution, you can sign, we can work out for a better settlement. I try to get a signing in event they can work it out without much change to a few documents. A few many need a resign. NO GUNS please!
We can keep the guns in their place and explain it will get worked out!!
ConnieK's Oregon Mobile Notary
My gun's place is on my body to protect myself, my family and anyone else who may need it if the situation arose. I pray every single day that I would never have had to use it, but I would if I had to. I am trained and efficient.
One question, where exactly is a gun's place in your opinion?
Kaci M. Lusk
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Texas
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Posted - 10/20/2011 : 06:26:48 AM
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Yes, I would - I would love to carry on night appointments OR those appointments at any time during the day in the middle of nowhere.
However, I would NOT take the gun into the borrowers' home for a number of reasons - they may have objections to guns in their home; children and curious eyes/fingers; maybe THE most important - if anything DID happen where things went south with the borrower, the risk is there of the borrower getting control of the gun and using it against me or in another fashion. Safer to lock it in the car - treat it like my journal and stamp - under my exclusive possession and control.
But that's just me.
Linda
http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell
http://www.columbiacountynotary.webs.com
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Linda,
I would suggest you take a concealed carry class that teaches you how to react in those situations. First off, if you are carrying on your person, no child is going to have access to your firearm. Second, it doesn't mater if the homeowner objects, it's your right to carry anywhere allowed by law. As long as you are concealed they will never know. Third, if it's in your car, it is not accessible and no protection to you. You have to know how to keep anyone from accessing your gun. If you are afraid of someone taking it from you, you should not be carrying, because that is exactly what will happen. JMO, no disrespect intended. I help train women for these scenarios.
Kaci M. Lusk
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TGS1985
California
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Posted - 10/19/2011 : 12:54:41 PM
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Originally posted by PaulK
What is wrong in introducing yourself as a notary signing agent, a independant contractor to show you where to sign and notorize the documents? The only static that I have ever had from anyone is thumbprinting.
Hey I'm with you, I've always introduced myself with a smile and never had a problem with any of my signers even if there was a problem with the documents. But at the same time we've all read the horror stories so doesn't hurt to be careful.
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PaulK
New Mexico
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Posted - 10/18/2011 : 07:34:13 AM
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TGS1985
California
208 Posts |
Posted - 10/17/2011 : 2:37:20 PM
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Is it bad that I don't carry a gun when I live/work in the city with the second highest violent crime rate in California? Hahaha...
I guess I have been lucky so far. I haven't had many night signings. I did have one about a month or two ago in what could be considered the ghetto. I'll be honest, I left a text message to my friend saying, "If you don't hear from me in an hour, call the cops I'm at this location hopefully not dead" but turned out to be just fine. A nice young couple trying to get their own landscaping business off the ground.
Then again I'm a 26-year-old male who's also a big guy. If I didn't remember to smile I bet a lot of people think I'm trouble.
Still, I would much rather carry a tazer than a gun as a person can still come/shoot at you even after you’ve shot them, where as a tazer locks up all the mussels in a person’s body essentially immobilizing them. They're not going to do anything as long as you hold down that trigger and those bards aren't easy to pull out once they are in your skin.
Of course I'd use it as an absolute last resort. If I feel remotely unsafe at a signing I throw everything in my briefcase and begin to walk out as quickly as possible.
Relating this to another thread I read regarding Notary ID, I think this is where badges would really help. I think it would allow us to relay a false presence of authority that could make an individual think twice before assaulting us. I don’t know about you but when I think of a badge, I think of a police officer and when I think of assaulting a police officer I think about not dropping the soap for 10+ years… Not that I think about a assaulting police officers mind you.
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n/a
Missouri
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Posted - 10/15/2011 : 08:22:11 AM
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I don't feel it necessary to carry a gun with the following exception. Whenever someone wants me to do a loan on the near North side of Downtown St. Louis, I tell them that either I need to carry a gun or have someone ride with me who is carrying a gun so that they can quard the car while I am in the house. It's a shame but that is the nature of the most dangerous urban area on the planet. Locals call the area " Murder-a-Day ". So I usually will get $225 to $300 for a signing in that area.
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Conniek
Oregon
78 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2011 : 9:52:28 PM
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I use a few words. "I am sorry, we must find out the cause. Let's call. If we call and get resolution, you can sign, we can work out for a better settlement. I try to get a signing in event they can work it out without much change to a few documents. A few many need a resign. NO GUNS please!
We can keep the guns in their place and explain it will get worked out!!
ConnieK's Oregon Mobile Notary |
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n/a
Washington
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Posted - 10/11/2011 : 08:15:33 AM
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Originally posted by edelske
With the following assumptions:
You are fully licensed to carry a concealed handgun.
You are trained and know how to use it.
The weapon was provided with ammo and at no cost to you.
Membership at a range was also provided to maintain your skills.
With the "logistics" out of the way, I ask:
Would you want the above scenario (legal carry of firearm DURING your notary travels)?
If so, why?
If not, why not?
Kenneth A Edelstein
Mobile Notary, Apostille / Legalization Processing & Fingerprinting
http://www.kenneth-a-edelstein.com
YES! Speaking from a gun owners point of view. There is a reason you get a concealed weapons permit. To conceal the weapon. This means you don't have to be an idiot and say "can I come in?, I have a gun"
The only business of a gun and the gun owner is between the two of them unless approached by an officer then the gun owner has to say he has a weapon and has a permit..
If you don't feel comfortable carrying a gun and would prefer a taser. Then you should not own or fire a gun at all..
For those who think, what if the person takes the gun from me and it all goes south and uses it against me? ONCE AGAIN! You should never handle a gun! It is people like this that give gun-owners, "trained" a bad name because people with lack of confidence when handling a gun kills! Guns don't kill..
A true gun-owner that has a permit, and has been trained and the confidence of handling a gun will pull their weapon as last resort because they are in fear for their lives.
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rmwells@tds.net
Ohio
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Posted - 10/11/2011 : 05:03:51 AM
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I would not ever take a gun into a borrower's home. I have never been threatened by a borrower or been subject to any abuse during closings, even when the borrower was not happy with something about the terms. Of course, being 6'3" and weighing about 230 lbs probably helps!
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LindaH
Florida
1754 Posts |
Posted - 10/05/2011 : 03:17:00 AM
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Originally posted by jbelmont
Linda - you have undermined the whole point of having a gun... which is to protect you from the tantrum that happens when the borrower finds out that their rate is not what the lender promised. For times like this you need either a gun, or a tazer, or Tai Kwon Do!
I'd be more comfortable carrying a taser into someone's home than a loaded firearm...but like I said, that's just me.
Either way, with either one, you pull that taser or gun and use it in someone's home, you're in huge trouble...
Linda
http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell
http://www.columbiacountynotary.webs.com |
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edelske
New York
815 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2011 : 9:16:34 PM
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Also effective: Providing the borrower a Valium (washed down with a double scotch) prior to presenting the HUD. 
Kenneth A Edelstein
Mobile Notary, Apostille / Legalization Processing & Fingerprinting
http://www.kenneth-a-edelstein.com |
Edited by - edelske on 10/04/2011 9:19:27 PM |
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jbelmont
California
3106 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2011 : 8:48:24 PM
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Linda - you have undermined the whole point of having a gun... which is to protect you from the tantrum that happens when the borrower finds out that their rate is not what the lender promised. For times like this you need either a gun, or a tazer, or Tai Kwon Do!
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LindaH
Florida
1754 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2011 : 11:27:12 AM
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Originally posted by edelske
With the following assumptions:
You are fully licensed to carry a concealed handgun.
You are trained and know how to use it.
The weapon was provided with ammo and at no cost to you.
Membership at a range was also provided to maintain your skills.
With the "logistics" out of the way, I ask:
Would you want the above scenario (legal carry of firearm DURING your notary travels)?
If so, why?
If not, why not?
Kenneth A Edelstein
Mobile Notary, Apostille / Legalization Processing & Fingerprinting
http://www.kenneth-a-edelstein.com
Yes, I would - I would love to carry on night appointments OR those appointments at any time during the day in the middle of nowhere.
However, I would NOT take the gun into the borrowers' home for a number of reasons - they may have objections to guns in their home; children and curious eyes/fingers; maybe THE most important - if anything DID happen where things went south with the borrower, the risk is there of the borrower getting control of the gun and using it against me or in another fashion. Safer to lock it in the car - treat it like my journal and stamp - under my exclusive possession and control.
But that's just me.
Linda
http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell
http://www.columbiacountynotary.webs.com |
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edelske
New York
815 Posts |
Posted - 10/04/2011 : 10:37:40 AM
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With the following assumptions:
You are fully licensed to carry a concealed handgun.
You are trained and know how to use it.
The weapon was provided with ammo and at no cost to you.
Membership at a range was also provided to maintain your skills.
With the "logistics" out of the way, I ask:
Would you want the above scenario (legal carry of firearm DURING your notary travels)?
If so, why?
If not, why not?
Kenneth A Edelstein
Mobile Notary, Apostille / Legalization Processing & Fingerprinting
http://www.kenneth-a-edelstein.com |
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