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DanD
California
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 Posted - 06/14/2009 : 11:41:08 AM
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Thank you for that information. Sounds like I did the right thing. I really appreciate having the opportunity to use this forum to get information. You both have been very helpful. I appreciate the "experienced" information.
Thanks again,
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Lisa T.
California
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Posted - 06/14/2009 : 11:20:42 AM
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DanD, I've been a Notary for nearly two years and have never had a notarization rejected because of a loose leaf certificate. I saw your post on NotRot regarding a different issue. Yes, there are instances where agencies are adamant about not attaching a certificate but you will find that to be rare. Just yesterday, I notarized signatures for a transfer of title form that is going to Arizona's DMV. The notarial wording on that form was not California compliant (maybe it was for AZ, I don't know) so I wrote "see attached CA compliant Ack" and attached a loose leaf certificate.
You must carefully review a document and look for notarial wording. Once you see the wording, from there, determine if it is CA compliant. If not, and if there is space, you can either use an Acknowledgment or Jurat stamp if you have one, or attach a loose leaf certificate. It is permissible to use other state's Ack wording for paperwork being filed in that other state. Jurats must have CA wording no matter where they're going. I never use other state's Ack wording because I don't know if it is correct, and I'm not required to know. A Notary is only bound by its own state's laws. If I get a written request to use the other state's Ack wording, I will.
As CopperheadVA, stated, if there is no notarial wording on the doc, ask the signer which one they'd like - Ack or Jurat - and describe the difference.
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DanD
California
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Posted - 06/14/2009 : 06:37:42 AM
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Thank you for the info. If the wording is not on the doc, does the DMV accept a lose leaf attachment? That too might be dependant on the state I guess. Any in is helpful. I really appreciate it.
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CopperheadVA
Virginia
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Posted - 06/14/2009 : 03:38:25 AM
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If the certificate wording is not on the document, then you must describe both an ack and a jurat and have the signer choose.
Be careful when notarizing title from an unfamiliar state (I'm in VA) - I did one recently for a Louisiana vehicle title, and the selling owner filled his name out on the blank line instead of the buyer's name. The buyer took the title document to his home state of North Carolina, and I got a call from the local seller that it was rejected "because NC DMV said the notary did it wrong - the notary essentially notarized the document back to the current owner". On the original notarization, the seller brought the form to me and I saw it for all of two seconds - I re-did the notarization as a courtesy but I was ticked that it was being construed as my fault.
CopperheadVA
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DanD
California
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Posted - 06/13/2009 : 10:07:16 PM
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I just got a call from someone who said they need me to notarize the title for change of ownership of a trailer. I have never been asked to do this and am curious what I would use; jurat or acknowledgement. Any info would be appreciated. This is in Ca. if that helps.
Thanks for the assistance,
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