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Lee-AR
Arkansas
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 Posted - 06/11/2009 : 12:45:00 PM
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"what is the incentive...."??? Exactly!
Inquiring minds would love to know.
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Renee
Michigan
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Posted - 06/11/2009 : 03:59:53 AM
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Yes, a very good point, Paul. There's sure a couple of corporate rooms where I'd love to be a fly on the wall ...
The question that rattles in my head is - what is the incentive for any huge vendor management co, with tons of resources and plenty of funding, whom one would reasonably assume to possess a vast internal data-base of vendors - to have this NNA requirement?
What do they get out of it?
Is First Am using this NNA BGC for their employees? If it's so streamlined, so convenient, so cost effective - then one would think it would be cross-utilized, since First Am has bazillions of employees (although I don't know if India counts?). If they are NOT putting their employees through the same system for BGC's, then wouldn't that indicate they have another system already in place?
Stewart is certainly no small potatoes, and they run their own BGC system (for what, I think $35) and it didn't require membership in any organization. |
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KanDoNotary
Oklahoma
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Posted - 06/10/2009 : 4:44:01 PM
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I like what Paul said about filing a complaint to the DOJ. For perspective: In my neighborhood, we have some issues that required police intervention. Some neighbors indicate that they don't like to call 9-1-1 because it isn't that urgent.
However, a police representative informed us that if there are numerous calls to 9-1-1 about similar incidents, the calls are all logged and will result in more police coverage in the area.
All that to say, the more complainants, the more possibility for response. Where only a few may be considered sour grapes, many with similar issue then warrants a review.
BTW, I have been called a couple times by FASS asking when I'm going to send an update to my profile since they've taken over TCT. Anyone else?
Have Seal, Kan Travel! |
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Renee
Michigan
549 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2009 : 2:02:27 PM
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Yep, that snipey remark was not only not called for, but really missing the Big Picture.
This isn't even about background checks, either. If it were, it would not be any kind of issue.
I do have regular background checks done, but NOT from the NNA. |
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LindaH
Florida
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Posted - 06/10/2009 : 11:37:28 AM
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Originally posted by tomthenotary
Oh your being a puss, its part of the business, if you want more work get the BG check, if not don't. One has nothing to do with the other>..........
Tom - no it's not part of the business and I'm sorry to hear that, apparently, you've been led to believe it is. I get plenty of work and my BGC "expired" last year - to be forced to join an organization that does nothing for me and be certified by them to get listed on their website for less than minimal fees is ridiculous. I was a member and was listed there for two years - the caliber of work I got from that listing is nothing compared to the clients I've gotten from this site and a couple others, including TCT, whom I've worked for several times at great fees. If the future brings something that finds me complying with the requirement (and I, personally don't see that happening for several very good reasons) BUT if it SHOULD happen, you can take it to the bank that I'll be going kicking and screaming.
And Tom - you don't need to resort to name-calling to have a discussion here.
Paul, quick note - I did file a complaint with the DOJ - it's their contention this does not violate any anti-trust regulations and there's nothing they can do.
Linda
www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah
http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell
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tomthenotary
Maryland
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Posted - 06/10/2009 : 10:21:27 AM
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Oh your being a puss, its part of the business, if you want more work get the BG check, if not don't. One has nothing to do with the other>..........
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PWinFL
Florida
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Posted - 06/10/2009 : 08:25:58 AM
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That's not the point, Renee. Granted, it may be completely legal under the strictest interpretation, but the practice may be found to be too limiting if there are enough complaints. Whether or not a practice falls under anti-trust activity is more than just the letter of the law, but the practices of the provider of services becoming limited. The DOJ has no way of knowing how widespread the activity is, that's why it is prudent, imo, to file a complaint. Just like the BBB, often nothing is done when there is only one or two complaints, but if there is a trend and widespread questionable activity, then it may be investigated.
Never drive any faster than your guardian angel can fly.
I am not an attorney licensed to practice law in the State of Florida,
and I may not give legal advice or accept fees for legal advice.
Visit us online at http://www.PAWnotary.com |
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Renee
Michigan
549 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2009 : 08:17:23 AM
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| The question was put to the FTC and the written response was that this is completely within the law. Details at the 'other' forum ... |
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PWinFL
Florida
469 Posts |
Posted - 06/10/2009 : 06:41:11 AM
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Your "notary" requirements only cover a very small part of a loan signing. What they're asking for is quite proper since you are doing much more than just notarizing a few signatures. However, the requirement that the check be completed by the NNA is questionable. You may want to file a complaint with the FTC (Federal Trade Commission) and the US DOJ (Department of Justice) about this practice limiting your ability to work.
Never drive any faster than your guardian angel can fly.
I am not an attorney licensed to practice law in the State of Florida,
and I may not give legal advice or accept fees for legal advice.
Visit us online at http://www.PAWnotary.com |
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Michael 3
Pennsylvania
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Posted - 06/09/2009 : 10:26:38 PM
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I got a call from First American Signing/TransContinential, they told me I am not getting business with them because I have not had a background check done by "National Notary Association". First of all is this even legal? When I was commissioned in the state of PA I had a background check done. They are requesting something above and beyond my states requirements and expecting me to pay for it. I am thinking of reporting them to the State Attorney Generals Office. Has anyone else been threatened in this way? It seems like this was an issue a year ago. I have done closing for FASS in recent months, are they just trying to nickel and dime us?
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