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bnichols
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 Posted - 01/16/2011 : 11:12:42 AM
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 Only one signing three years or so back. Will never-ever work for them again. |
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jbelmont
California
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radonotary
Florida
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Posted - 06/24/2007 : 06:39:24 AM
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| Oh... and just to answer your question... I'm really a good guy. However, I have been told, all my life, that I don't know how to let go of a grudge. I harbor resentments that go back for decades. I guess I'm just one of those people that enjoys my resentments more than just letting go. (And it's always the little stuff) For good or bad. |
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radonotary
Florida
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Posted - 06/24/2007 : 06:21:35 AM
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radonotary
Florida
234 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2007 : 06:16:27 AM
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This is all Jeramy's fault  Visit the Forums Visit the Forums Visit the Forums
Darn those pesky E-mails  |
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radonotary
Florida
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Posted - 06/24/2007 : 06:14:46 AM
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On the very busy days only. But your right this has gotten way out of hand. I'm not one to chat in these forums. My sole intention was to post a warning and look where it has gone.
Now I can't help looking if someone has responded. It's horrable, like a drug. I need to stop!
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gale0325
California
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Posted - 06/24/2007 : 04:55:31 AM
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6-7 signings a day!? I'd give non important body part for that kind of business!
Why spend so much time and frustration on ONE signing that went sour for whatever reason.
If I had you level of business, I would gladly 'donate' a signing a week!
Gale A. Mosshammer
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radonotary
Florida
234 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2007 : 03:29:42 AM
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 I think that you and others have really missed the point on this one. THIS LOAN CLOSED! It funded. The borrower was paid. The Broker was paid. The Title CO. was paid. All the debt payoffs were made and most importantly The Signing Agency was Paid! I WAS NOT! I know this because I spoke with the Title CO and the Borrower.
 Why do people think I’m talking about a loan that did not close????????????
I called and spoke with Nathan Tran, he was no help and he told me that ESS was owned by a firm in Canada. I took this as... he is running interference for that CO. On top of that he and another person at ESS LIED to me. They told me the Title CO. didn’t pay. They told me the Title CO. is out of business. They told me that the Title CO. was responsible to pay me. LIES and more LIES. So now who do you suggest I speak with? The Pope
I’m not talking about freebies and good marketing. I do my share of freebies when it is good marketing.
I’m talking about being RIPPED OFF.
Yes my tone is sharp. I believe that if you do a job for someone and you see that job trough to its end you should be paid. I’m not new. I don’t expect to be paid in full if the loan does not fund or if it cancels. But I also believe that if it does not fund or cancels or what ever, you should get a trip fee or print fee or something. All I got was excuses and lies.
“and I try to co-operate with the companies that hire me.” I get the impression that you think we should just shut up and eat crow when we don’t get paid because some CO. has in internal error or some glitch to cause us not to be paid. My tone is sharp because I am passionate about not allowing nor tolerating people to steal from me. Maybe this escapes you but it is a CRIME in this country to hire someone and then not pay them. So now what? Interpol, The FBI ( yea right )
I thought this was a place where we could air our grievances about CO’s that wrong us.
I HAVE BEEN WRONGED!
Apparently some people have a loyalty to ESS and that’s just great. Perhaps one of you could speak to Nathan about how freeked out I am ( like he doesn't know ) and have them PAY ME! ( In the end that’s all that I want )
As for the rest and the many companies that monitor these boards all the time.
Look People... my original intent was to warn you about a Signing Agency that did not pay me, thats it. And all I heard back ( except for one, thanks again ) was EAT IT. SHUT UP. TAKE IT, I DO. So once again and for the final time. If you don’t want this to happen to you...
TA DA... Lights, Camera, Action... I recommend that you DO NOT do business with ESS. Thank you and good night.
Oh Yea... P.S. I am a Full Time Certified Loan Signing Agent in the 4th largest Market in the US. My average signing fee is $125.00 - $200.00 per signing. I do an average of 3 , 4 signings a day. 5 & 6 on very busy days. I have a client list of 87 Signing Agencies, Title CO’s, Attorneys, Annuity Firms and Brokers who use me regularly because of feed back they get from their clients. ( not message boards ) I don’t believe ( or at least I hope not ) that this posting will have an effect on my work load. As always I will continue to do the outstanding work that people have come to expect from me. ( how was that, good huh!? ]) lol
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joanbergst
California
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Posted - 06/21/2007 : 5:37:31 PM
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A Title company calls me or in this case ESS hires me and tells me I will only get paid if the loan closes I will always take the opportunity if I am paid enough. A 99.5% chance of getting paid is fine with me.
If you have another issue with ESS, because you were not paid, then you need to talk to the owner of the company.
If I do a lot of work for a title/escrow/lender/signing company and the loan doesn't get signed, I will often never bill the company and give them a "freebie." I feel this is just good marketing because I am making a bunch of money from these companies.
Your tone of voice is very sharp; call the owner and straighten this out. Just posting this on a message is not good for you as this company has been in business for 6 years and is not one of the companies that are black balled over & over on the message boards.
Remember, many companies monitor these boards all the time.
I had 7 calls for loan signings today and 1 public notary call and some reasons for this is: I know how to market myself, I do error free work, and I try to co-operate with the companies that hire me.
I am trying to be helpful here and I don't know how long you have been in our industry?
www.joanbergstromnotarypublic.com
Joan Bergstrom
24/7 To Riverside & San Bernardino Counties.
State Notary exam teacher for www.notaryclasses.com
www.joanbergstromnotarypublic.com
joan.bergstrom@yahoo.com
Cell: 951-522-4919
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radonotary
Florida
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Posted - 06/21/2007 : 11:53:00 AM
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dfye@mcttelecom.com
New Hampshire
681 Posts |
Posted - 06/21/2007 : 08:44:32 AM
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I am with you Rado in that I believe that no matter how the loan goes YOU SHOULD GET PAID. No one should ever do a signing for nothing. You give of your valuable time, money and professionalism to complete a signing and should be compensated as such. Since I do signings full time, it does not benefit me to work for a company who will not pay if the loan does not sign. Why anyone would feel that not being compensated just because the signing does not happen is beyond me but that is what suits them. Eventually, these non-paid signings will add up and the contracting company will continue to have your number until you say no more.
Nevertheless, one should calm down when posting as others will be offended and may not necessarily listen to your good advice.
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radonotary
Florida
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Posted - 06/21/2007 : 04:17:32 AM
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No! Thats not what they said. They said they were OK with working for a CO. that won't pay for anything if the loan does not fund. Not a trip fee. Not a print fee, NOTHING. For me, that's NUTS. And when I asked are you people nuts, it was a rhetorical question generalizing the Idea that to do an entire closing and not get paid for anything is NUTS. If there are people out there working for free, than any signing CO. does not have to pay anything if the loan does not fund and you and I both know that the majority of CO's. out there pay trip and print fees. Its not right that a CO. won't compensate for any of our expenses and we should not be OK with that because our time is worth something isn't it.
Which of course brings me back to... DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH ESS.
It's not meant to be taken personally. Sorry no apology today. |
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LindaH
Florida
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Posted - 06/21/2007 : 03:03:45 AM
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"HEY GF what part of I spoke with the Title CO. and was told the loan funded! don't you understand. And now I can't help wondering what kind of ridiculous mentality does it take to be Ok with working for Free. Are you people nuts?"
Okay Rado - I think you need to calm down - everyone is entitled to an opinion and everyone may not have had the bad experience you had - all GF and Joan said was that their experience with this company was not like yours. Insulting your peers will get you nowhere. GF and Joan didn't deserve this little diatribe and namecalling of yours and I think you owe them an apology. IMO
Linda
http://www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah |
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radonotary
Florida
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Posted - 06/21/2007 : 02:50:05 AM
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This is not one of those cases. HEY GF what part of I spoke with the Title CO. and was told the loan funded! don't you understand. And now I can't help wondering what kind of ridiculous mentality does it take to be Ok with working for Free. Are you people nuts?
I am making it my mission in life to destroy this CO. If anyone out there knows these people, tell them to expect a call from the CA DA's office. I am trying to mount a criminal case.
I WILL NOT REST UNTIL THEY ARE OUT OF THE PICTURE. |
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GF_CA
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Posted - 06/18/2007 : 4:36:45 PM
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| I'm sorry to hear that. I work for them already 2 years and, like Joan said the percentage for the loan not close is very low. I like work for them. |
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radonotary
Florida
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Posted - 06/18/2007 : 04:18:22 AM
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ESCROW SIGNING SERVICES, INC. -- ESSNETWORK.COM (out of CALIFORNIA) WILL NOT PAY ME!!!
I did a signing for this Co. and they refuse to pay me. When I spoke with "Nathon D. Tran" this half-wit tried to put the blame on the Titile Co. I had already spoke with the TC and was informed that the loan funded and everyone was paid. When I threatned him, all he could muster up (in that dim-witted mind of his) was that his Company is owned by a firm in CANADA. WHY THE HELL IS ANY AMERICAN NOTARY WORKING FOR A CO. IN CANADA. It is my recommendation that anyone in our industry should NOT do business with this company.
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joanbergst
California
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Posted - 06/09/2007 : 1:29:19 PM
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I have worked with them on and off again for 5 years and I consider them a very good company.
In my opinion I don't mind working with companies that only pay if the loan funds.
Only 1/2 of 1% of the refinance loans (estimated) don't fund because a Right to Cancel is exercised.
I have always been paid by companies with this policy.
Another way to look at this is I stand a 99.5% chance of getting paid as long as the company is a good good company and pay their notaries!
Joan Bergstrom
24/7 To Riverside & San Bernardino Counties.
State Notary exam teacher for www.notaryclasses.com
www.joanbergstromnotarypublic.com
joan.bergstrom@yahoo.com
Cell: 951-522-4919
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GF_CA
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Posted - 06/08/2007 : 2:34:31 PM
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gale0325
California
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Posted - 06/08/2007 : 03:16:56 AM
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Have any of you had dealings with this company? I need your comments to help make an informed decision.
Gale A. Mosshamer |
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Dear Signing Agents,
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