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DianaNotary
California
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 Posted - 10/04/2010 : 4:20:03 PM
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hey David
congratulations on your New Notary Commission!
Don't get discouraged just take it easy. Yes, it might take time to get your Notary business rolling…I would suggest that you do some advertising, PR in the local community, contact law offices in your area, etc.
We all have been in that new shoes… and it’s a matter of time and experience until you get a hang of it.
Good luck with everything!
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Originally posted by Willis
Hi all. Just got my commission and dont know where to begin. Im here in fort lauderdale. Anyone know how to get into the jail signings around here. Do i cold call local law firms? Any input helpful.
thanks
david
http://www.DianaNotary.com |
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Willis
Florida
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Posted - 09/17/2010 : 2:24:00 PM
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| I never asked either of you to post a thread. You did this of your own free will so be careful when your fishing as some of what your trying to catch will bite you back next time and thanks for the welcome your both great humanitarians |
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FlaNotary
Florida
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Posted - 09/17/2010 : 1:18:13 PM
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Originally posted by Willis
Robert,you infer that me getting my commission bothers you and we have to many already. Sorry you got into a competitive business but just maybe this will motivate you to be creative. Because your not creative you want to ban others. I think there are many names for people to think this way. The Notary system was not created only for you but other as well. If you want to see my point, change the words in your neighbor senerio from country music to the word Notary. If me becoming a Notary takes away from you being unique, then.........Like i said a rough bunch!!!!
Sorry, but I didn't get into this business for the money. Did that occur to you? I am a notary because I completely embrace my position as a public servant. I truly do make every effort to serve the public.
Creativity? Most who know me would say I've been very creative with my notary commission. I developed a wedding business out of nothing, which provides a great supplement to my income. I've also written a book on notary law, penned a national course for the American Association of Notaries, and wrote a course for first-time applicants which was approved by the Governor's office. All of these things I did completely alone and without help from others, with my own research.
Yes, it bothers me that we have too many notaries... It especially bothers me that you are now serving the people of Florida as a notary but you don't take the position seriously, are dedicated to insulting others, and have already closed your mind to learning anything about this profession. Message boards are a great resource, but you obviously have a problem accepting advice from others when it isn't exactly what you wanted to here. Sorry we didn't welcome you with open arms, tell you everything you need to know to become a millionaire doing "jail signings", and give you our client lists so you can take our business.
Yes, this is a competitive business, but we really do try to help each other. Check out the message boards here, at Notary.net, and Notary Rotary, and you will find virtually unlimited information about being a notary. But do the research yourself and become educated, because as a public officer you have a tremendous amount of liability, and those who don't take their position seriously are the ones that wind up in court, behind bars, or with huge judgments against them.
I've now said everything I need to say, so I, too, am done with this thread.
Robert T. Koehler
Notary Public for the State of Florida
State-Approved Notary Educator
Commissioner of Deeds for the State of Florida in the Bahamas
Commissioner of Deeds for the State of New Hampshire
Certified Loan Signing Agent
AAWO Accredited Wedding Officiant
www.NotaryWeddings.com
www.NotaryAcademy.org |
Edited by - FlaNotary on 09/17/2010 1:19:20 PM |
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Willis
Florida
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Posted - 09/17/2010 : 08:54:11 AM
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| Thought thats the level you would go to, name calling. If you defend your weaknesess they are yours!! |
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LindaH
Florida
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Willis
Florida
6 Posts |
Posted - 09/17/2010 : 07:41:55 AM
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Linda, you say ive become a notary for all the wrong reasons but who elected you as the judge of this. Youve given yourself the power to define the reasons and one of the biggest problems in the world today is just that. Its so easy to give oneself power and thats why we have laws to protect us from people who want to give themselves power. Im sure after you posted this you sat back and enjoyed the feeling but thats all you are left with is yourself and those feelings. As with all people who feel they know the truth an inflict on the innocent their beliefs, all that is waiting for them is a lonely dark corner with a mirror so they can percieve themselves.
And Robert,you infer that me getting my commission bothers you and we have to many already. Sorry you got into a competitive business but just maybe this will motivate you to be creative. Because your not creative you want to ban others. I think there are many names for people to think this way. The Notary system was not created only for you but other as well. If you want to see my point, change the words in your neighbor senerio from country music to the word Notary. If me becoming a Notary takes away from you being unique, then.........Like i said a rough bunch!!!! |
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FlaNotary
Florida
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Posted - 09/16/2010 : 5:00:27 PM
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Willis, think of it this way. You write country songs and you drive a black corvette. You are obviously proud of these things, because you mentioned both of them in your first two posts on this board. These are things which you feel make you unique. This is how I feel about my notary commission.
Now, imagine if all of a sudden, all of your neighbors started writing country songs and driving black corvettes. On top of that, your neighbors are writing terrible country songs and making a lot of money off of them, and they don't take care of their black corvettes. Wouldn't it kind of bother you? Wouldn't it tick you off that these things which made you unique are now virtually worthless because everyone has them?
Welcome to our world. We have almost 450,000 notaries in the State of Florida. That is about one notary for every 43 people. It is hard to be excited about having a "newcomer" come aboard, because our industry is so oversaturated. Notaries are not thought of as public officials, but rather, a notary commission is now considered a novelty. Just about everyone knows somebody who knows somebody who is a notary who will be willing to break the law.
I'm sorry that we didn't sugarcoat things for you. This is not a good time to be getting into this business. As Linda pointed out, you did not do this for the right reasons, and your maturity based on the structure of your last few posts is questionable. Jail signings are rare, because every jail has notaries. In fact, Florida Administrative Code requires every jail to have notaries. Calling law firms would be a waste of time, because every law firm has at least one notary. Again, two perfect examples of how our low standards in Florida make it so easy for the number of notaries to spiral out of control.
You became a notary just because you want to visit jails? That's absurd. You obviously don't take this position seriously. You probably don't even think of it as a "position", you think of it as a novelty, like the majority of the public.
Again, sorry that we aren't sugarcoating it. I don't mean to disrespect you, but it is the people like you who have diminished public respect for the office of Notary Public.
Robert T. Koehler
Notary Public for the State of Florida
State-Approved Notary Educator
Commissioner of Deeds for the State of Florida in the Bahamas
Commissioner of Deeds for the State of New Hampshire
Certified Loan Signing Agent
AAWO Accredited Wedding Officiant
www.NotaryWeddings.com
www.NotaryAcademy.org |
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LindaH
Florida
1754 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2010 : 3:37:19 PM
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You're right - we don't know you..but from what you've posted I can say with reasonable certainty (a) you became a notary for all the wrong reasons (I could become one pretty easy); (b) you don't take it seriously (...so I said what the heck and might as well be a notory too. No Plans to do it but thought it would be interesting to do signings); and (c) you seriously need to grow up (you like cop shows so you think jail notarizations would be cool????)
We can be a very helpful bunch - more helpful than you realize...but you need to take yourself AND the position seriously or there's not much help we can give you. Respect yourself, respect the position and respect those who have gone before you .. without that respect .... <<shrug>>
My suggestion to you - read you manual - learn it forward, backward and sideways. Maybe build a free website - advertise your services and let someone find you. Would I advise you to contact companies or firms? No - not with what you have to offer right now.
By the way - one of the first things you'll learn when you read the handbook is you are a Not*A*ry....not a notory...
Good Luck.
Linda
www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah
http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell
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Willis
Florida
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Posted - 09/16/2010 : 1:40:25 PM
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| Boy you guys are not very brotherly!! i also have a black corvette and talk on the smokin vette forum under this general discussion and always welcome new comers. Thought this might be the same but seems like a rough bunch! But thats ok your still my brothers and sisters even though you only accept those of your status. I posted that im new and you say your sick of those who do not respect the position!!You don know anything about me only that im new. But when you buy a new car its great and when you got your commission that was great too and if you suffer a heart attack that would be ok for me to help you to survive oh but posting on this site that im new asking a simple question raises your blood pressure. What up with this!!! |
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FlaNotary
Florida
59 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2010 : 1:17:05 PM
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Willis -
This is a bad time to get into the notary business nationwide. But in Florida, the demand for new notaries is little to none. We have more notaries here in Florida than any other state - probably due to our relaxed education standards and generally low cost to get a commission.
You say you don't know where to begin. Well, I'll give you some advise - don't "begin" by starting to do loan signings. Start with general notary work. Read the handbook over and over. Even though our handbook in Florida is out of date in some respects, it is an excellent resource because it covers almost every possible situation. You need to commit the notary laws to memory. Many people breeze through the online course because they think there's nothing to being a notary. Actually, there's a lot to it.
Do you know how to administer oath? Do you know what documents require an oath? Do you know how to complete a notarial certificate? Do you know what types of ID are acceptable? Do you know how to attest a copy? Verify a VIN? Solemnize a marriage?
You can learn to do these things by studying - study the handbook, study the laws. We have some excellent resources in Florida. When in doubt, ask for help on a message board like this one. Don't just go around stamping and signing whatever papers are put in front of you. Learn the responsibilities you hold as an officer of the State of Florida.
If you hadn't gotten your commission already, I would have told you not to. We don't need any more notaries in Florida. We don't need any more signing agents in Florida. There isn't enough work to go around. The few loan signing jobs available go to experienced loan signers.
If you are in this job for the money, find another job. There is no money in this job. I do this because I love being a notary. I became a state-approved notary instructor, not because I expect to make a bunch of money off classes, but because I want to do my part to help improve the standards of this public office by educating. If we are going to keep getting more notaries, I at least hope that they will know what they are doing.
If you want to be a notary, be the best one you can be. Keep a journal. Study, study, study. Focus on your duty to the state and to the public, rather than your duty to your wallet.
Robert T. Koehler
Notary Public for the State of Florida
State-Approved Notary Educator
Commissioner of Deeds for the State of Florida in the Bahamas
Commissioner of Deeds for the State of New Hampshire
Certified Loan Signing Agent
AAWO Accredited Wedding Officiant
www.NotaryWeddings.com
www.NotaryAcademy.org |
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Willis
Florida
6 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2010 : 1:09:17 PM
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to; PWinFL
I applied for the commission as was on line applying for a patent on a product i developed and said i needed it notorized so i googled notories and showed i could become one pretty easy but cannot notorize my doc. So i applied and got it. I have a sucessful corporation and also write country music lyrics so i said what the heck and might as well be a notory too. No Plans to do it but thought it would be interesting to do signings. I like cop shows so thought jail signings might be cool. You do sound kinda mean though but did ask a interesting question. |
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PWinFL
Florida
469 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2010 : 07:50:10 AM
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I'm confused. If you don't know what to do, I'm assuming you don't have a business plan or any idea of what the demand for notaries is. I'm not being mean, just as honest as I can be. Law offices, lawyers in general, expect the notary to know what their doing without any hand holding. Same with other companies, businesses, professionals and the general public. They all expect you to be the expert in performing your duties.
Out of curiosity, why did you become a notary?
Never drive any faster than your guardian angel can fly.
I am not an attorney licensed to practice law in the State of Florida,
and I may not give legal advice or accept fees for legal advice.
Visit us online at http://www.PAWnotary.com |
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Willis
Florida
6 Posts |
Posted - 09/16/2010 : 06:54:21 AM
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Hi all. Just got my commission and dont know where to begin. Im here in fort lauderdale. Anyone know how to get into the jail signings around here. Do i cold call local law firms? Any input helpful.
thanks
david |
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