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smcohn
California
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 Posted - 10/17/2012 : 09:18:10 AM
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"The Child Protective Service system is looking for excuses to steal people's children from parents"
Wow! Really?!? Someone is having difficulty staying on topic I think. When under the influence of children we all do what we must. Including doing what is necessary to feed and clothe those same children. Paranoia is a curious thing, is it not?
Back on topic...I got a call the other day for a Sunday night signing at 10 pm. The offer was for $70. My "regular hours" are posted on my website for a reason. I suggested he get permission to pay significantly more and then call me back. He didn't call back, of course and yes, I slept very well that night. If we undervalue our professional services then we can't expect lender's/title/SA's to value our services either. |
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notaryslife
California
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Posted - 10/17/2012 : 08:58:03 AM
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Diana, I'd say you are risking too much leaving the children to go out and do a loan signing and could possibly be hauled into court by the CPS and your children possibly taken from you if something happens to them while you're out on the road doing a signing.
The Child Protective Service system is looking for excuses to steal people's children from parents because they make money from the State for it. They won't hesitate to investigate any complaint including your borrower's potential claim you want to charge them for your nanny fees, etc.
Let's say one of your children falls and injuries themselves while you were away, CPS is called out by the doctor at the hospital and would immediately remove your children from you. They would ask you where you were and why you left them with a nanny. They could allege you can't afford to support them that you are out working at night, etc.
It's too risky to do a signing when your husband isn't available to watch your kids. It opens up a can of worms big time.
quote]Originally posted by DianaNotary
To Bobbi:
Imagine that your husband is not available to babysit in the evening and you have to call the nanny for a couple of hours. How much do you think your nanny would charge for evening babysitting?
You get the point, nannies value their time (and I admire that) and so do we, notaries. I agree most of the loan signings happen at night, and that’s an inconvenience – so why not charge accordingly?
http://www.DianaNotary.com
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Sincerely yours,
Notary's Life |
Edited by - notaryslife on 10/17/2012 08:59:02 AM |
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DianaNotary
California
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Posted - 02/18/2011 : 10:34:21 AM
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To Bobbi:
Imagine that your husband is not available to babysit in the evening and you have to call the nanny for a couple of hours. How much do you think your nanny would charge for evening babysitting?
You get the point, nannies value their time (and I admire that) and so do we, notaries. I agree most of the loan signings happen at night, and that’s an inconvenience – so why not charge accordingly?
http://www.DianaNotary.com |
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BobbiCT
Connecticut
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Posted - 02/17/2011 : 09:48:45 AM
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Since I prefer evenings, pre-scheduled with customers, having my competition publicly post that they charge more for evenings, would be even better for me and my NSA associates who do not charge additional "night" fees.
Of course, for all of us, each assignment fee quote is unique to each hiring party, based on lender, time and travel, and the contract that we did or did not sign.
Think backward: If your spouse is home evenings to babysit the youngsters, do you REDUCE you fee because your out-of-pocket expenses are less or quote your "standard" rate?
Bobbi in CT |
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LindaH
Florida
1754 Posts |
Posted - 02/17/2011 : 06:55:57 AM
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Originally posted by jbelmont
Hi Guys,
We did not delete any comments. Facebook shows the most recent (2) comments, and you have to click on the text that says, "View all 10 comments" to see the other comments.
One notary said they should ask an attorney as to what they should charge. There are a few states with travel fee limits, but the other states offer the freedom to charge whatever the market will bear, (or won't bear).
A few notaries are angry with us for introducing this topic. I think its important for notaries to reflect deeply on what they should charge. Its a very complicated topic.
Hi Jeremy...
I realize you didn't delete any comments - it was FB acting up and yes, I do know how to access all the comments. Trust me when I tell you they were not showing up for me (and not just me - others too)... but it's fixed now so no problems.
As for your price list - it's not that we're upset with the proposed prices. As I posted, my area would not support those prices you "suggested" - but that's the key - you "suggested" them, which may or may not come back to bite you later - depending on how many people see it and implement it because "123Notary said so"...THAT'S the problem. And don't for one minute think that won't happen - I saw a post on Notary Rotary a couple days ago where a notary asked a procedural question then posted later "Wikipedia says I can do this.."...so if they'll rely on Wikipedia (cringes), trust me, they WILL rely on you..
Perhaps a more generic posting - such as "if allowed by state law, notaries doing late evening or late night appointments may want to consider an additional "after hours" fee"...
MHO
Linda
www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah
http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell |
Edited by - LindaH on 02/17/2011 07:23:42 AM |
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PWinFL
Florida
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Posted - 02/16/2011 : 6:19:24 PM
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Originally posted by jbelmont
A few notaries are angry with us for introducing this topic. I think its important for notaries to reflect deeply on what they should charge. Its a very complicated topic.
We're not angry for introducing this topic, but are taken aback that you would introduce specific fees and charges.
We all agree that anyone in any business needs to "reflect deeply" on their fee schedule. It is not complicated. The whole idea of a fee or charge is to (1)recoup expenses and (2)make a profit. Pretty simple concept. It does take time to sit down and figure out what your expenses are, taking everything into consideration. Then add to that what you want for your profit, remembering that there are probably more expenses for yourself than just this job.
I submit that those who eagerly take the $30 and $40 jobs have not fully analyzed their expenses, aka cost of doing business. They're probably operating at a loss.
Never drive any faster than your guardian angel can fly.
I am not an attorney licensed to practice law in the State of Florida,
and I may not give legal advice or accept fees for legal advice.
Visit us online at http://www.PAWnotary.com |
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jbelmont
California
3106 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2011 : 4:34:49 PM
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Hi Guys,
We did not delete any comments. Facebook shows the most recent (2) comments, and you have to click on the text that says, "View all 10 comments" to see the other comments.
One notary said they should ask an attorney as to what they should charge. There are a few states with travel fee limits, but the other states offer the freedom to charge whatever the market will bear, (or won't bear).
A few notaries are angry with us for introducing this topic. I think its important for notaries to reflect deeply on what they should charge. Its a very complicated topic.
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DianaNotary
California
171 Posts |
Posted - 02/16/2011 : 11:06:26 AM
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I totally agree that there should be an additional surcharge for late night signings.
Speaking from my experience, I find that it’s very stressful to find the place (even with the GPS!), it’s a bit scary too, I feel like I have to be extra cautious at night…Plus, in San Francisco you CAN—N-N-N-N’T FIND PARKING AT NIGHT!
http://www.DianaNotary.com |
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LindaH
Florida
1754 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2011 : 06:25:15 AM
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Originally posted by PWinFL
Sure there is. 11 comments (as of right now). Last one by Tim Gatewood (8 hrs ago).
Never drive any faster than your guardian angel can fly.
I am not an attorney licensed to practice law in the State of Florida,
and I may not give legal advice or accept fees for legal advice.
Visit us online at http://www.PAWnotary.com
That's FB and satellite internet for ya!! Ugh...and I think my proof is right there - another poster complained of having his post deleted - and it's not...it's there...hrrrmmm....FB??
Apologies and previous post retracted...gonna go read and catch up now!!..:)
Linda
www.notarydepot.com/notary/lindah
http://www.notary.net/websites/LindaHubbell |
Edited by - LindaH on 02/15/2011 06:30:52 AM |
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PWinFL
Florida
469 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2011 : 06:19:08 AM
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Sure there is. 11 comments (as of right now). Last one by Tim Gatewood (8 hrs ago).
Never drive any faster than your guardian angel can fly.
I am not an attorney licensed to practice law in the State of Florida,
and I may not give legal advice or accept fees for legal advice.
Visit us online at http://www.PAWnotary.com |
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LindaH
Florida
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jbelmont
California
3106 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2011 : 12:00:45 AM
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We are having an interesting discussion on Facebook at
http://www.facebook.com/123notary?sk=wall
Its about how much extra you should charge as it gets later and later at night for travel fees.
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Incremental fee increase for late night signings?
